What kinds of names do these people toss out when you ask them a question like "if 'far left' is distinct from 'tankie' then who would you consider the quintessential example of 'far left'?" Ralph Nader? AOC? Jagmeet Singh? Samantha Bee?
I know it's pointless to expect the answer to reflect a coherent ideology, but I'm still interested.
Marxists openly debated about whether Russia could do a communism because it lacked an industrial economy so even orthodox Marxian analysis said it was a risky move and might fail.
What radlibs fail to account for in all their handwringing is that the USSR was in a state of siege for 70 fucking years from the West. They then put the first man and first woman in space. What they accomplished is a feat of incredible tenacity.
You're putting far more thought into it than a typical westoid claiming to be a leftist. "The USSR wasn't real socialism, China isn't real socialism, real socialism has never been tried. All the enemies of the US State Department are also my enemies."
They don't consider actual anarchists to be leftists if they get to know them. I got called a red fash and a tankie and even a Caleb Maupin on reddit even when i was still a committed AnCom, simply because these confused children couldn't handle opinions like "it's ok and often even necessary to use violence against fascists if you don't want marginalized people to get murdered" or "Amerika killing two million people in Vietnam was kinda genocidal, actually." You may note these aren't even particularly radical positions, there's completely middle of the road socdems who wholeheartedly and openly share these sentiments (at least in places were socdems can be considered middle of the road), but many redditors, even those who like to claim the far left label for themselves, are so insanely drenched in right wing bs that they cannot wrap their head around anybody being to the left of Bernie. Their entire mental process just derails when they're confronted with any position outside the nazi hellscape that is US politics.
What kinds of names do these people toss out when you ask them a question like "if 'far left' is distinct from 'tankie' then who would you consider the quintessential example of 'far left'?" Ralph Nader? AOC? Jagmeet Singh? Samantha Bee?
I know it's pointless to expect the answer to reflect a coherent ideology, but I'm still interested.
"Marxists are the real far left but not these authoritarian red fash marxists, theyre far right like Stalin was" - reddit probably
Oh yeah RadLibs love to talk about how the Soviet Union "perverted Marx's vision"
Marxists openly debated about whether Russia could do a communism because it lacked an industrial economy so even orthodox Marxian analysis said it was a risky move and might fail.
What radlibs fail to account for in all their handwringing is that the USSR was in a state of siege for 70 fucking years from the West. They then put the first man and first woman in space. What they accomplished is a feat of incredible tenacity.
Radlibs can fuck off.
You're putting far more thought into it than a typical westoid claiming to be a leftist. "The USSR wasn't real socialism, China isn't real socialism, real socialism has never been tried. All the enemies of the US State Department are also my enemies."
Anarchists. That, and liberals who consider themselves anarchist.
They don't consider actual anarchists to be leftists if they get to know them. I got called a red fash and a tankie and even a Caleb Maupin on reddit even when i was still a committed AnCom, simply because these confused children couldn't handle opinions like "it's ok and often even necessary to use violence against fascists if you don't want marginalized people to get murdered" or "Amerika killing two million people in Vietnam was kinda genocidal, actually." You may note these aren't even particularly radical positions, there's completely middle of the road socdems who wholeheartedly and openly share these sentiments (at least in places were socdems can be considered middle of the road), but many redditors, even those who like to claim the far left label for themselves, are so insanely drenched in right wing bs that they cannot wrap their head around anybody being to the left of Bernie. Their entire mental process just derails when they're confronted with any position outside the nazi hellscape that is US politics.
Probably Bernie Sanders
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