So I decided to go and do a startup with an old coworker of mine about two years ago because I actually really like programming and I had enough money to live off my savings for awhile. So I'm building an open source piece of software, we have no real monetization scheme and that's fine. Maybe some rich company will adopt us and we can get a service contract, or we can trick some investor in giving us some money and we'll burn it all on bloated salaries.

The problem is that I've been doing this for 2 years and I'm throughly burned out. I've been working like a dog, 12+ hour days, rarely any time off. I don't have any hobbies anymore and my relationship with my partner isn't great. I want this to be useful to people because it has the real capacity to make peoples jobs easier. It abstracts away like 90% of what data engineers have to do and in my opinion it is actually innovative (fully outside of capitalism). I'm just at this point where I'm mentally done with the idea and I just don't have the energy anymore to see the rest of it through. I've been getting in a lot of arguments with my cofounder recently about product direction and I think it's just me being anxious about getting this adopted. We still don't know who our target users are and I just want anyone to use it and I don't care about 'personas' and product market fit.

I'm not going to drop the link here because I don't want it coming up in a google search but you can DM me and I can show you what I've done. I honestly don't know what I should do at this point, just quit and get a real job or take a break and then just try to trudge through it.

Thanks of listening.

  • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]
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    2 years ago

    Lmfao "they dont deserve their wealth but they are wealthy because they are highly intelligent" is a contradiction.

    But my main genuine curiosity being, I just want to know why you are interested in all of this, have a sort of faith in capitalism being benevolent, and yet come here. What is unappealing to you about r/neoliberal or similar?

      • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]
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        2 years ago

        Never said they were stupid but I get your point in a way, come back to talk about the main point when you are calmer.

        • GaveUp [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Your main point is that you associate being intelligent with inherent virtuosity

          When did I ever say capitalism was benevolent? You just assumed that because I acknowledged the abilities of some capitalists

          Why is "they dont deserve their wealth but they are wealthy because they are highly intelligent" a contradiction?

          Replace highly intelligent with any other adjective. "Great Britain doesn't deserve their wealth but they are wealthy because they are militarily and economically powerful". ""Elon Musk doesn't deserve his wealth but he is wealthy because he is at scamming government officials"

          It's you that's weird, treating intelligence as a morally good trait

          • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]
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            2 years ago

            Your main point is that you associate being intelligent with inherent virtuosity

            Sorry what the actual fuck are you on about? My main point is that I am genuinely confused as to what experience you have as to trust and share this business knowledge assuming that it would work? Furthermore, why did you share pro-capitalist knowledge in the first place? What makes you think spreading more individualism and more competition is a good idea?

            Furthermore, “they dont deserve their wealth but they are wealthy because they are highly intelligent” is still a contradiction too btw because it assumes that one of the main reasons the demonic elite are wealthy is because they are "highly intelligent", ie. assuming that there is a certain rational order to capitalism where an input (being "highly intelligent" as a business owner) will lead to an output (becoming incredibly wealthy). In that way they do "deserve" their wealth because it is an expected output, a reward.

            • GaveUp [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              Furthermore, why did you share pro-capitalist knowledge in the first place? What makes you think spreading more individualism and more competition is a good idea?

              I don't think it's a good idea. But OP came in here as a literal capitalist asking for help for their startup (lol) and so I really doubt calling them out would discourage them. I'm just entertaining the guy, that's all. It's not like I'm gonna suddenly gonna somehow convert people here to being liberals

              Why would the outputs of a machine not depend on the input? There is no "luck" in the real world. Yea, some people have better opportunities and resources but why would our world not have a rational order to things? Being highly intelligent as a business owner on average, will lead to more success than being a dumb business owner, all else being equal. I really don't know what's so controversial about that lol. Also, I still never said they deserved their wealth. I really have no idea where you're getting that from

              • space_comrade [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                There is no “luck” in the real world.

                What?

                Being highly intelligent as a business owner on average, will lead to more success than being a dumb business owner, all else being equal.

                The "all else" which includes stuff like pre-existing privilege being 99% of the determinant of your success, yeah.

                You have some serious brainworms to scrub away from your mind.

                  • space_comrade [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    "Um acscshkhkly metaphisically speaking everything is deterministic so there's no such thing as luck"

                    Come on really? Are you 12?

              • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]
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                2 years ago

                This is why I say there is no substantive western left. None of us told the capitalist fuck who dared admit to being a capitalist fuck to use their wealth to build something good and sustainable for themselves and the people around them instead of wasting it by doing startup cuckery because this simply isn't a "reality" in our westoid lives. Moreover here you are spreading knowledge that really does nothing but further individualist thinking and free-market neoliberal dominance despite knowing better. You don't need to convert anyone here to being a liberal because there is no one that needs such a conversion, fucking hilariously awful situation.

                There is no “luck” in the real world.

                :tito-laugh: :tito-laugh: :tito-laugh: :tito-laugh: :tito-laugh: :tito-laugh: :tito-laugh:

                Not another word beyond that lmfao i bet youre some rich angloid startup owner or upper class fuckwit, the most lost out of all lost redditors

                • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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                  2 years ago

                  None of us told the capitalist fuck who dared admit to being a capitalist fuck to use their wealth to build something good and sustainable

                  "Having enough money saved up to live off for a couple years" does not make someone a capitalist. Heck, I've got enough savings to live off for at least 2 years and my bank account is well below the median worker's annual earnings in the US; my income was never even close to that level.

                  I am not arguing in any capacity in favor of the hot take that "successful CEOs have rare and powerful skills"; I'm just saying maybe cut OP some slack for working on an open source project that OP thinks will make people's jobs easier, instead of whatever you deem to be The Most Valid Leftist Project.

                  Although if you have more ideas on what "building something good and sustainable" is, I'd be really interested in comparing notes; I've been thinking about this for a long while.