Hello users of Hexbear, the mod team wishes to announce that going forward:
- Moderators will be asked to remove comments that are off-topic, unproductive to the post's discussion, hostile, or wrecker-jacketing/alt-jacketing.
- Moderators will be asked to lock posts that become excessively hostile and are unable to sustain productive discussion.
- Moderators will be asked to remove meta posts and comments that are not in the feedback community.
- Moderators will be asked to remove posts made to call out other users directly or indirectly
Anyone suspecting a user to be a wrecker, report and move on, publically calling the user a wrecker does not help, and in the case of a genuine post actively harms.
Please do not use account age as a test for the validity of a user, as there are many 2-year-old accounts that resurface to troll, and we wish to reduce hostility, especially against users with new accounts.
Please engage with fellows users positively and assume good-faith until proven otherwise!
As with other rules, the code of conduct will soon be updated and users repeatedly violating the code of conduct will be banned.
Thank you and Viva Hexbear!
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Aggression against new users is especially bad when we want to encourage people to be making new accounts now and then to begin with. Speaking of, I should soon lol
But new users easily trip over one of the many, many rules and get accused of being the worst sort of humanity and quickly banned, to applause.
Moderators will be asked to remove comments that are off-topic, unproductive to the post’s discussion
Not a fan of this tbh. This is pretty common on reddit as a derailing rule and it's not great. I know i'm complaining about a free service here and all, but I figure we have upbears for this and you could achieve much the same by hiding comments that are -x% below other posts from view
Perhaps its a good excuse to get rid of upbears entirely. Does everything on the internet really need a 'like' button? A while back I discovered that Microsoft Outlook now allows you to send thumbs-up notifications in response to fucking work emails. Maybe liking/upvoting/etc is being included a bit thoughtlessly in stuff these days and it is actually unnecessary?
but many bears gives me dopamine
how else will i satiate my hunger for approval and perception as socially competent
Microsoft Outlook now allows you to send thumbs-up notifications in response to fucking work emails
It allowed me to send angry face emojis to the IT department when they formatted our MS teams and made us create everything again, it's worth it for that reason alone.
I use upbears to track comments I've already read so I can come back to the thread and harass people I'm targeting easier.
Does everything on the internet really need a ‘like’ button?
IT's like the last source of dopamine I have okay?
Would make it feel much more like old forums. I am for it, though unsure how the algorithm works with engagement and whether or not that can be weaponized negatively some way ala bumps and whatnot
Liking a post gives other people a chance to show they like or agree with a post without having to directly comment. It's important to not clog up every single discussion with the same opinion said over and over by different people, and it also allows people to engage in a way that doesnt require as much effort as writing a whole post themselves.
Seconded. I know the intent is good, but the implementation is inevitably mods playing favorites.
I know i’m complaining about a free service here
Fuck that. I throw more money at Hexbear maintenance per month than I spend on podcasts. You have my permission to complain to your heart's content.
:-/ Going to report mod-abuse to the mods?
Listen, I like this website and I generally like the people who run it. That's why I'm here. That's probably why I haven't said anything that would have gotten me banned on Reddit.
But come on, dude.
I knew it! I knew all the banned users were actually a super plus ultra group who watched the watchers who watched the watchers who-
ombuds, but i wouldn't know anything about setting that up
I get in the sense of what's possible to do with the given resources and what ain't but can this at least be put on the roadmap or something? There's already a system in place for people to decide what constitutes good or bad contributions to discussion, be grand if that were used for this
I like the new guidance on wrecker-talk. Been seeing people call other people wreckers more lately, and it feels like a witch hunt. The real wreckers are pretty damned obvious, and the mods deal with them quickly.
For real, if we're going to label "new-ish users with lib takes" as "wreckers" then we should all be calling ourselves Rehabilitated Wreckers lmao
should all be calling ourselves Rehabilitated Wreckers lmao
Waddya mean "rehabilitated" :data-laughing:
Made a small dick joke and doubled down on it about 50 times.
Damn, what a hill to die on after every other struggle session that user has been involved with.
I think it was "fash like Greek statues because they have small penises, just like them" or something
it was for the time they called me out for eating beans during cytube movie night
They also said this
Like, of course you’ll choose to be a man. You are a man. You are the oppressor, who benefits just by existing in the system. Why would you ever willingly give that up? Whatever.
very feminist and trans rights of you
:gender-policing: :gui-trans:
Kinda surprised they managed to trip over that bar, of all things. "Don't be transphobic" seems like such an easy one for Hexbear.
Now i can't comment in random threads that i farted :( :19: :84:
Anyone suspecting a user to be a wrecker, report and move on, publically calling the user a wrecker does not help, and in the case of a genuine post actively harms. Please do not use account age as a test for the validity of a user, as there are many 2-year-old accounts that resurface to troll, and we wish to reduce hostility, especially against users with new account
Thank goodness for this rule. It's really annoying when people do these things. Like obviously a brand new account posting straight up chud/far right stuff is not engaging productively, but calling every new account that disagrees with you a wrecker is just toxic behaviour. People are allowed to disagree
Also that behavior is really bad for site growth. It's unreasonable to expect someone entirely new to be fully acquainted with the site's culture and values. As long as they're not a chud posting clearly reactionary shit or blatantly rehashing a previous struggle session, then they should be given a little bit of leeway. Being yelled at and accused of being a wrecker on your very first post is probably going to make you logout and never return.
Most people here don't think of site growth as a very high priority, but at the very least we need to gain new users at the same rate old users leave.
People are allowed to disagree
Well there is a whole chapter about democratic centralism in Lenin's What is to be done?
And it is pretty clear that people are not allowed to disagree publicly when the party democratic consensus was reached.
Yes on matters to do with politics and the party. Or serious stuff.
Arguing over witch treat is better, or people's lifestyle choices, I don't see how that's protected under democratic centralism. Some people like superhero movies, others don't. Some people party, others do not. Some people consume drugs and alcohol, others don't. Some people like pets, others don't. This is just a few examples, but it's perfectly fine for people disagree on stuff like that.
You know, while I agree with you I can't think about a world in which Capestuff movies are outlawed and not feel like :sicko-wholesome:
I mean I don't like the latest capestuff movies either, and their crazy fans can be really annoying. And I think them stopping or flopping would be really funny. But I'm not going to hate on people for liking Thor thunder 5 or whatever comes out. If my friends go to see the latest guardians of the galaxy, I'll probably go with tbh.
Generally very good, but I agree with others that "off-topic" moderation presents a very squishy license for removal of content that is easily abused.
me, blissfully just making Good posts every now and then and avoiding hostility or mod warnings: :grillman:
it becomes jacketing if you accuse someone of being an active, deliberate enemy
wrecker-jacketing/alt-jacketing
gonna need some word definitions or else I'm going to have to suddenly change all my political positions on every topic and start posting in /r/walkaway.
Jacketing = accusing. For example, cop-jacketing is accusing someone of being a cop.
