supposedly at the time there was overwhelming support for the shootings of the college kids and the majority thought they deserved it. probably why it's been memory holed.
It's a little more complicated than that. Don't want to give too much personal info away, but I am intimately familiar with the Kent State shootings. Public opinion was pretty divided at the time from what my parents tell me. At least in the area around Kent, the anniversary of May 4th is treated pretty solemnly. Back in the 80s the rival university 15 miles away named their basketball arena after the governor who sent the national guard in and there were significant protests.
Back in the 80s the rival university 15 miles away named their basketball arena after the governor who sent the national guard in and there were significant protests.
Jesus fuck this country has always idolized fascism hasn't it?
the protests against the Vietnam War were always unpopular with a large segment of society who thought the primarily college student protestors were commie traitors and would have cheered to see them shot.
I always felt that it was the thought people had, but it's another thing for armed forces to murder US citizens without a peep, then again I guess it's just that I want to hope that some people aren't just hateful soulless beings and can change
Apparently there was a rumor at the time that someone in the crowd had fired a hand gun at the national guard. That probably influenced initial responses.
I think a lot of people can be reformed even if they're total assholes, at least to the point where they can participate in society. There's a lot of stuff stacked against you from birth in the US - bad education, constant propaganda.
Yeah, more or less. Though there were hundreds of anti-government bombings a year during that period so it probably sounded less ridiculous than it does now.
A lot of those people will change if we look like winning. Change material circumstances, and break false consciousness, and people's moral horizons will shift, surprisingly easily.
Most people just live their lives and go with whatever seems best. Most political people are opportunists, looking for the position that will make them seem smart and cool. Most who aren't either of those are edgelords with no theoretical backing.
A lot of younger Americans simply just don't know about it. I had to teach a coworker of mine who's about 25, what actually went down with hippies during Vietnam. I'm only a few years older but I had a based history teacher who taught us about iran/contra, MK Ultra, the banana republics, and other forms of US imperialism.
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supposedly at the time there was overwhelming support for the shootings of the college kids and the majority thought they deserved it. probably why it's been memory holed.
It's a little more complicated than that. Don't want to give too much personal info away, but I am intimately familiar with the Kent State shootings. Public opinion was pretty divided at the time from what my parents tell me. At least in the area around Kent, the anniversary of May 4th is treated pretty solemnly. Back in the 80s the rival university 15 miles away named their basketball arena after the governor who sent the national guard in and there were significant protests.
Jesus fuck this country has always idolized fascism hasn't it?
the protests against the Vietnam War were always unpopular with a large segment of society who thought the primarily college student protestors were commie traitors and would have cheered to see them shot.
I always felt that it was the thought people had, but it's another thing for armed forces to murder US citizens without a peep, then again I guess it's just that I want to hope that some people aren't just hateful soulless beings and can change
Apparently there was a rumor at the time that someone in the crowd had fired a hand gun at the national guard. That probably influenced initial responses.
I think a lot of people can be reformed even if they're total assholes, at least to the point where they can participate in society. There's a lot of stuff stacked against you from birth in the US - bad education, constant propaganda.
Shit so pretty much what we have now with "they were resisting" or "they were bad dudes" huh?
Yeah, more or less. Though there were hundreds of anti-government bombings a year during that period so it probably sounded less ridiculous than it does now.
Outside agitator shit was also extremely common back then. No new arguments
unlimited :took-restraint:
A lot of those people will change if we look like winning. Change material circumstances, and break false consciousness, and people's moral horizons will shift, surprisingly easily.
Most people just live their lives and go with whatever seems best. Most political people are opportunists, looking for the position that will make them seem smart and cool. Most who aren't either of those are edgelords with no theoretical backing.
Yep. It's the James A Rhodes Arena on the campus of Rhe University of Akron if you want to look it up.
:rust-darkness: there's periods in which I really just want to ask these people why they are so hateful
He was elected to a third and fourth term following the massacre.
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and we don't talk about jackson state because it's a black school.
Bruh, isn't they carpet bomb their own city the year tiny man happen?
Do you mean the Philadelphia MOVE bombing? I believe that was in 85 and Tienamen was in 89.
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A lot of younger Americans simply just don't know about it. I had to teach a coworker of mine who's about 25, what actually went down with hippies during Vietnam. I'm only a few years older but I had a based history teacher who taught us about iran/contra, MK Ultra, the banana republics, and other forms of US imperialism.