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supposedly at the time there was overwhelming support for the shootings of the college kids and the majority thought they deserved it. probably why it's been memory holed.
It's a little more complicated than that. Don't want to give too much personal info away, but I am intimately familiar with the Kent State shootings. Public opinion was pretty divided at the time from what my parents tell me. At least in the area around Kent, the anniversary of May 4th is treated pretty solemnly. Back in the 80s the rival university 15 miles away named their basketball arena after the governor who sent the national guard in and there were significant protests.
Back in the 80s the rival university 15 miles away named their basketball arena after the governor who sent the national guard in and there were significant protests.
Jesus fuck this country has always idolized fascism hasn't it?
the protests against the Vietnam War were always unpopular with a large segment of society who thought the primarily college student protestors were commie traitors and would have cheered to see them shot.
I always felt that it was the thought people had, but it's another thing for armed forces to murder US citizens without a peep, then again I guess it's just that I want to hope that some people aren't just hateful soulless beings and can change
Apparently there was a rumor at the time that someone in the crowd had fired a hand gun at the national guard. That probably influenced initial responses.
I think a lot of people can be reformed even if they're total assholes, at least to the point where they can participate in society. There's a lot of stuff stacked against you from birth in the US - bad education, constant propaganda.
Shit so pretty much what we have now with "they were resisting" or "they were bad dudes" huh?
Yeah, more or less. Though there were hundreds of anti-government bombings a year during that period so it probably sounded less ridiculous than it does now.
Outside agitator shit was also extremely common back then. No new arguments
A lot of those people will change if we look like winning. Change material circumstances, and break false consciousness, and people's moral horizons will shift, surprisingly easily.
Most people just live their lives and go with whatever seems best. Most political people are opportunists, looking for the position that will make them seem smart and cool. Most who aren't either of those are edgelords with no theoretical backing.
Yep. It's the James A Rhodes Arena on the campus of Rhe University of Akron if you want to look it up.
:rust-darkness: there's periods in which I really just want to ask these people why they are so hateful
and we don't talk about jackson state because it's a black school.
Bruh, isn't they carpet bomb their own city the year tiny man happen?
Do you mean the Philadelphia MOVE bombing? I believe that was in 85 and Tienamen was in 89.
A lot of younger Americans simply just don't know about it. I had to teach a coworker of mine who's about 25, what actually went down with hippies during Vietnam. I'm only a few years older but I had a based history teacher who taught us about iran/contra, MK Ultra, the banana republics, and other forms of US imperialism.
Since it was a beating, that has never really been in question. That's why (with a bit of racism sprinkled in) they have murder prosecutions lined up for everyone involved.
That's the memphis case with Tyre Nichols.
The ATL thing was a protester shot by a pig and the pig claimed he shot at them first.
The contradictions do be sharpening. Here’s hoping we enter the :cool-zone: this weekend.
Atlanta famously slow/not super willing to go hard in protests in recent times. 2020 popped off but Idk about this. Some folks torched some cars last week but i guess ill see whatsup when this drops
We'll haul out Killer Mike or T.I. or something to scold the protestors to stop hurting their property and say it's for the good the common folk of Atlanta
"please listen to this rich landlord who looks like you but does not share your class interests"
People have been running a year long campaign to protect the forest and prevent construction of a police training center. They've been sabotaging construction equipment and marching through construction sites, with publoc sympathy largely on their side. Atlanta has been going harder than most of the US, regardless of how destructive their street protests are.
War is exciting. Very few people are so calm that they don't feel some strong emotion at the prospect of violent conflict. Whether it's dread or anticipation or something else. It's a normal human reaction. Hell, it's probably part of our fight/flight response, your brain preparing for the possibility of having to react quickly in the near future.
How is it we get bodycam footage this soon while it took us six months to get Paul Pelosis?
