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Yeesh. Talk about putting words in my mouth.
Fuck off wumao
You're literally defending China's actions in Iraq/Afghanistan, where it killed millions of random fucking people. Don't forget Abu Ghraib. Fuck China.
Holy fuck it feels so good to see their arguments used against them. Is this why America loves projecting onto China?
Oh yeah, the typical anarchist argument that US wars are justified and racially insensitive slurs are super cool!
@lvysaur didn't use my arguments against me, they used conservative arguments against an anarchist. Uh, good job, I guess?
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Uh anarchists (at least internet ones, I have no beef with real anarchists out there doing praxis) don't think wumao is a slur, they think going to war with china is cool and good, and yes they support many neoliberal interventions everywhere. This is literally why MLs and armchair anarchists will never get along
I don't know who you were interacting with, but they weren't anarchists. Are you sure they weren't "anarcho"-capitalists?
Excuse me? You guys uncritically support the protestors in HK and Belarus, you called Castro a genocidal dictator for the longest time, you were shit talking Evo Morales till he was couped, you think "state capitalism" is a thing, you think that Joe Biden "lets finally succeed in overthrowing Venezuela" is harm reduction. Like, this is common knowledge. If you'd like to prove me wrong you can find one (1) popular post that does the opposite coming from an "anarchist"
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Please, I implore you to come visit some anarchist spaces. I promise a lot of your assumptions are wrong.
And even if some anarchists support the things you claim they support, that doesn't mean I do. It's generally good to not assume the absolute worst caricature of your conversational opponent.
I find it difficult to give anarchists any benefit of the doubt when their worldview literally lines up with the worldview the average american citizen held during the Red Scare, and refuses to acknowledge it or even discuss it without devolving into accusations of Red Fascism
Also links 1 and 2 showed me that some anarchists don't want to vote for Joe Biden after he trash talked you guys, so I guess that's nice, but it seems to me that if he didn't say anything about anarchists but held the exact same political beliefs you'd all be rallying around him
Link 3 literally calls China state capitalism, so I guess good on you for opposing war with China? Not one of my accusations but honestly good to know, some anarchists I've seen unironically advocate nuking China to free the Uighurs
I'm not going to argue with you, because the caricature you're portraying doesn't exist. I'm an anarchist, I spend a lot of time in anarchist spaces both online and offline, and the vast majority of anarchists don't agree with anything you're saying. Anarchists are against all wars, so no supporting war with China. Anarchists are against all states, so no supporting the US. Anarchists are often, but not always, against electoralism, so the idea that we overwhelmingly support Joe Biden is strange to say the least.
The fact is you're wrong about anarchists. And it's really too bad, because you'd find the reality to be a lot more tolerable than you think. I hope one day you come around and see that we're not the enemy. ❤️
There's a reason I made it a point to differentiate from anarchists and online anarchists. I haven't met any anarchists in real life, so the only exposure I get is online, and holy shit the people who call themselves anarchists are insufferable. I'm sure they don't actually represent anarchist ideology, but "real" anarchists never call them out when they support neoliberal interventionism, or when they justify attacking MLs when said MLs are in the middle of a conflict with capitalists/monarchists. In contrast to MLs, who will call each other out on a bad take.
I actually don't have a preference, as I'm an anticapitalist, and am willing to bring about communism in whichever way will work. But I actually cannot and will not side with people who uncritically cite Adrian Zenz or other state media (and these people often stop arguing the moment that man is brought up, and instead resort to dogpiling in order to suppress any real discussion)
This is exactly why I said you should visit some anarchist spaces. You'll learn a lot and see that real life anarchists are good people with good values.
I don't doubt that. Pretty sure enough of them will tell me to fuck off though when I tell them that I don't mind siding with MLs (or tankies, which apparently is every single ML or ML-adjacent person)
Did I tell you to fuck off? We're not the people you think we are. They'll probably recommend some anti-ML theory, though!
aright if I keep arguing with you any further I'm gonna have to take 10 courses of ivermectin
Kudos to being on the 17th plane of reality denial but also get yourself checked out, that may be hazardous to your health.
Remember, the confederates may have been bad, but the slaves also ate pork which means they literally killed animals--so they're both bad. Fuck the USA, fuck China.
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