This would be prime fodder for one of those “in communist China” bits, but I’m too disgusted by what I just read. What the fuck.
literally always 100% projection, no idiomatic hyperbole or exaggeration.
Like literally always. No exceptions. It's a biological law at this point.
So then China is the destroyer of world peace, right?
It's almost like both states are projecting and trying to paint the other as "the bad guy", when in reality they're both pretty fucking bad. Fuck the US, fuck China.
when in reality they’re both pretty fucking bad. Fuck the US, fuck China.
Yeah they are both pretty bad
The British empire and the local Mcdonald's manager who banned me for swiping too many ketchup packets are also both pretty bad. That's why I complain about them the same amount, because they're equally bad and deserve equal criticism.
If you have a problem with this, you're probably a dang honey-bear-worshipping wumao. Fuckin hate these wumaos tbh. China needs to gtfo Iraq and apologize + reparations for killing the Native Americans. Fuck China in particular until it does that, no amount of wumao trolling will change my opinion.
If you have a problem with this, you’re probably a dang honey-bear-worshipping wumao. Fuckin hate these wumaos tbh. China needs to gtfo Iraq and apologize + reparations for killing the Native Americans. Fuck China in particular until it does that, no amount of wumao trolling will change my opinion.
Yeesh. Talk about putting words in my mouth.
Fuck off wumao
You're literally defending China's actions in Iraq/Afghanistan, where it killed millions of random fucking people. Don't forget Abu Ghraib. Fuck China.
Holy fuck it feels so good to see their arguments used against them. Is this why America loves projecting onto China?
Oh yeah, the typical anarchist argument that US wars are justified and racially insensitive slurs are super cool!
@lvysaur didn't use my arguments against me, they used conservative arguments against an anarchist. Uh, good job, I guess?
@lvysaur didn’t use my arguments against me, they used conservative arguments against an anarchist.
aright if I keep arguing with you any further I'm gonna have to take 10 courses of ivermectin
Kudos to being on the 17th plane of reality denial but also get yourself checked out, that may be hazardous to your health.
Remember, the confederates may have been bad, but the slaves also ate pork which means they literally killed animals--so they're both bad. Fuck the USA, fuck China.
Uh anarchists (at least internet ones, I have no beef with real anarchists out there doing praxis) don't think wumao is a slur, they think going to war with china is cool and good, and yes they support many neoliberal interventions everywhere. This is literally why MLs and armchair anarchists will never get along
Uh anarchists (at least internet ones, I have no beef with real anarchists out there doing praxis) don’t think wumao is a slur, they think going to war with china is cool and good, and yes they support many neoliberal interventions everywhere.
I don't know who you were interacting with, but they weren't anarchists. Are you sure they weren't "anarcho"-capitalists?
Excuse me? You guys uncritically support the protestors in HK and Belarus, you called Castro a genocidal dictator for the longest time, you were shit talking Evo Morales till he was couped, you think "state capitalism" is a thing, you think that Joe Biden "lets finally succeed in overthrowing Venezuela" is harm reduction. Like, this is common knowledge. If you'd like to prove me wrong you can find one (1) popular post that does the opposite coming from an "anarchist"
Please, I implore you to come visit some anarchist spaces. I promise a lot of your assumptions are wrong.
And even if some anarchists support the things you claim they support, that doesn't mean I do. It's generally good to not assume the absolute worst caricature of your conversational opponent.
I find it difficult to give anarchists any benefit of the doubt when their worldview literally lines up with the worldview the average american citizen held during the Red Scare, and refuses to acknowledge it or even discuss it without devolving into accusations of Red Fascism
Also links 1 and 2 showed me that some anarchists don't want to vote for Joe Biden after he trash talked you guys, so I guess that's nice, but it seems to me that if he didn't say anything about anarchists but held the exact same political beliefs you'd all be rallying around him
Link 3 literally calls China state capitalism, so I guess good on you for opposing war with China? Not one of my accusations but honestly good to know, some anarchists I've seen unironically advocate nuking China to free the Uighurs
I'm not going to argue with you, because the caricature you're portraying doesn't exist. I'm an anarchist, I spend a lot of time in anarchist spaces both online and offline, and the vast majority of anarchists don't agree with anything you're saying. Anarchists are against all wars, so no supporting war with China. Anarchists are against all states, so no supporting the US. Anarchists are often, but not always, against electoralism, so the idea that we overwhelmingly support Joe Biden is strange to say the least.
The fact is you're wrong about anarchists. And it's really too bad, because you'd find the reality to be a lot more tolerable than you think. I hope one day you come around and see that we're not the enemy. ❤️
There's a reason I made it a point to differentiate from anarchists and online anarchists. I haven't met any anarchists in real life, so the only exposure I get is online, and holy shit the people who call themselves anarchists are insufferable. I'm sure they don't actually represent anarchist ideology, but "real" anarchists never call them out when they support neoliberal interventionism, or when they justify attacking MLs when said MLs are in the middle of a conflict with capitalists/monarchists. In contrast to MLs, who will call each other out on a bad take.
I actually don't have a preference, as I'm an anticapitalist, and am willing to bring about communism in whichever way will work. But I actually cannot and will not side with people who uncritically cite Adrian Zenz or other state media (and these people often stop arguing the moment that man is brought up, and instead resort to dogpiling in order to suppress any real discussion)
I haven’t met any anarchists in real life, so the only exposure I get is online
This is exactly why I said you should visit some anarchist spaces. You'll learn a lot and see that real life anarchists are good people with good values.
I don't doubt that. Pretty sure enough of them will tell me to fuck off though when I tell them that I don't mind siding with MLs (or tankies, which apparently is every single ML or ML-adjacent person)
Did I tell you to fuck off? We're not the people you think we are. They'll probably recommend some anti-ML theory, though!
I honestly want to ask liberals what Biden is actually going to do about this garbage and the imperialist shit in general and get an actual answer, considering his previous admin was responsible for starting the road for this. Conservatives are just fascists openly cheering at this point and will all get the wall, but I want to see liberals justify this for their war criminal doing nothing, but rather contributing to it and likely continuing it if he gets power.
on every level this is evil and horrifying. this is an actual, literal genocide and its happening in facilities right next door to us. like, there's nothing else to say except, the people facilitating and participating in this don't deserve to share the earth with the rest of humanity.
This one article already has more solid evidence than any piece about the "Uyghur genocide"
dude but 4 random people who may or may not be Uyghurs said so in this piece published by a US-backed "non governmental" organization
Random muslim guy leaning against a wall in Xinjiang: Speaking into an iphone Uhh yeah dude those jails are fucked up man. I bet they've got like 5 million of our guys locked in there or something cause that place is huuuuge. My mom's boyfriend Skweezy Zhao used to tell me they like strap you to a papoose board and make you chant "Allah sucks, I like China a lot" and shit. And I know he's legit because he gave me my first hit of opium when I was 12. Trust me man, this shit's insane."
Interviewer, whose Twitter name is "GABRIEL WIELDS HIS FLAMING SWORD AGAINST COMMUNISM": Holy shit get Mike Pompeo on the phone
quick, look over there!
CHYNA is LITERALLY OPENLY selling MACHINES that access the MOBILE COMMUNICATIONS NETWORK (aka phones)
Get organized, help people have class consciousness, help people slide left down the pipeline to MLism.
If ever there is to be world peace, the US must burn to fucking ground and its ashes thrown into space to prevent any possibility of a rebirth. The political class, elites and their bootlickers put up against the wall and/or burned alive. Fuck this shithole.
In twenty years those camps are gonna be expanded 30X and full of US citizens of the bad kind displaced by climate disasters.
those us citizens that dared to be refugees from another state
you know, the thing that happened during katrina
Probably nothing because
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the US won't be summarily defeated in a war the way nazi Germany was
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we'll all be dead from climate catastrophe so no computerslol
For better or worse, we'll still have computers. These things have been mass produced to such a large scale that we'll sooner run out of guns.
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How do I know this is true if they haven't sourced Adrian Zenz?!?
How many of these women have already had their children torn from their arms? How many of these women have never had a child and want one? This is unbelievable. Literally state-sanctioned eugenics. Who is this fucking doctor??
Should be one of the first candidates for the guillotine or wall.
The guillotine does not consume precious war materials.
I've been to Dachau and it is one of the most ominous places I've ever been to. This is happening on the soil of the US.
Unironically, the idea of Central Park for these sacks of shit has never seemed better, and even then, they would only get a fraction of the justice they deserve for the immense suffering they've caused these people and countless others in their fucking greed.
the thread in neolib says the source isnt credible, someone says well the sources on china are iffy too, someone responds with associated press and reuters articles that quote Zenz and goes "This is unreliable?"
Beyond parody.
Now I am going to act exactly like how I have seen many PRC-haters act when sources are questioned 'Well, I believe it anyway because it sounds like something the y﹡nks would do.'
