Show me the racism, because I’m not seeing it. Because Pooh is yellow? I think that’s a stretch. The guy has a passing resemblance to Pooh I think is the long and short of it, no more racist than Cheeto/Trump. Yes libs are annoying and often racist, but AFAIK calling this racist unfortunately has no ground to stand on.

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    7 months ago

    If you wouldn't say that Obama looks like a monkey, you shouldn't say that Xi looks like Winnie the Pooh

    People comparing poc to animals really should come to an end

  • Acute_Engles [he/him, any]
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    7 months ago

    no more racist than Cheeto/Trump

    Can't be racist towards white people.

    There's no historical precedent for white people to be discriminated using language like orange skin or cheeto

    AFAIK calling this racist unfortunately has no ground to stand on

    As far as you know? Well as far as I know, Asian people have had their skin depicted as yellow for decades in harmful racist propaganda so depicting a Chinese person as a character with yellow skin seems like pretty solid ground for an accusation of racism.

    Could you maybe elaborate on how you think calling Trump a cheeto is comparable at all?

    • davel [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      They are comparable in that every politician of any note is going to be caricatured, in political cartoons, the media in general, and in memes.

      I’m not interested in Xi being caricatured, but obviously people are going to do it, and not (only) because he’s not white, but because he’s a politician of note. What caricature of Xi would disinterested people consider to not be racist? Perhaps Papa Smurf (just for argument’s sake as I see no resemblance)?

      I can’t really disagree, though, that the Pooh’s yellowness is a red flag.

  • Dolores [love/loves]
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    7 months ago

    never underestimate the racism. like yeah it can look a bit far fetched and obtuse when you're not fully exposed to the racist milieu that spawns it, but you'd better believe people still have 19th century anti-chinese prejudice in the west today

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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      7 months ago

      For real

      Hell, pretty much every time China gets mentioned in some economic or news journal, you see the fuckin' artist channeling "The Inscrutable Celestial" or "The Perfidious Yellow Claw of The Orient"

    • davel [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      you'd better believe people still have 19th century anti-chinese prejudice in the west today

      I have no doubt that this remains hegemonic.

  • yoink [she/her]
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    7 months ago

    The guy has a passing resemblance to Pooh

    so, in your own words then - what is the passing resemblance to Pooh? if its definitely, no way to do with skin colour, what is the 'passing resemblance' supposed to be?

    • davel [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      I’m not a visual artist and suck at verbalizing such things. If I’m ever put in front of a forensic sketch artist, they’re never gonna find the killer.

    • dannoffs [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      I've never compared Xi to Pooh until this moment, but it's the cheeks and overall "squishy-ness". In pictures Xi just gives off the same vibes.

  • Swoosegoose [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    He in no way bears a passing resemblance to Pooh. Pooh is a cartoon bear with basically no human features. The meme originated in China from a picture of Obama and Xi walking side by side in a stride that matched a picture of Tigger and Pooh walking. It had nothing to do with Xi "looking" like Pooh. American libs then invented an idea that Xi banned Winnie the Pooh from China out of whole cloth and made memes comparing Xi to Pooh The image I always see libs use has Xi edited to add ears, a nose, and outright painting him yellow. It's an excuse to dehumanize and yellow face an Asian man. It's racist.

    • davel [he/him]
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      Thanks, I’ve never understood where it started or why, though I do know the rest, like the dumb censorship rumors.

  • Dickey_Butts [none/use name]
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    7 months ago

    Its definitely racist sometimes, but its also just not that good of an own? Like, who doesn't like Winnie the Pooh?

  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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    7 months ago

    This has the same exact energy as "Drawing Obama like a monkey is not racist because we already drew George W Bush like a monkey."

      • davel [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        Do I ever wish it would, because it still pops up on lemmy.ml, and then I have to figure out how to deal with it.

  • the_itsb [she/her, comrade/them]
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    7 months ago

    has a passing resemblance to Pooh

    he doesn't look like Pooh to me

    could you please describe your perspective on which of his physical characteristics portray this "passing resemblance"?

  • ashinadash [she/her]
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    7 months ago

    lmayo

    Sorry just the "no more racist than Cheeto" really got me. If it has the capacity to be racist(as the Xi/Pooh thing does), libs will be racist with it no matter how much of a reach it is.

  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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    7 months ago

    It's racist because it's anti China (in addition to the other reasons). If you're not racist you should support the PRC.

    • davel [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      This is the weakest argument, and it’s the strawman that libs trot out the most often.