I just read that over 160.000 Ukranian men have died in the war and over 400.000 have been wounded, the rest of the population is scattered around Europe, and the population still living in the country will have to deal with the destruction of builidings and civilian infrastructure. Ukraine was already in debt before the war and now It's gonna be a way worse problem.

Even if Ukraine manages to get a "victory" over Russia, how is it gonna rebuild the country without money and without people, because I honestly don't think that many Ukranian refugees will come back home after the war.

  • ElmLion [any]
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    2 years ago

    Be wary of any figures about deaths/casualties in this kind of war but kills and wounded does seem to be in the hundreds of thousands.

    As for their future - what happens to any state that's subject to a full-blown proxy war? Korea, Afghanistan, Syria, Congo, Cambodia, Angola, they get long-term destabilised, possibly indefinitely split into two or more eternally warring states and overall absolutely screwed over. However the war goes, this is now like Ukraine's future.

    • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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      2 years ago

      Korea seems to be doing decently compared to the rest. Like, it's a capitalist hellhole with all the horrors blocked out when it's shown in the media, but you don't hear about people doing tourism in Congo or Syria like you do SK.

      • MoreAmphibians [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        The US massively invested in South Korea since we needed a bulwark there in order to counter China. I'm not sure the US is still capable of that level of investment in infrastructure though.

        • CTHlurker [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Korea was also massively boosted by being allowed to export to Japan and the US, along with a millitary dictatorship that focused heavily on economic development and in particular the use of 5 year plans for industry. Turns out that receiving hundreds of millions of dollars in foreign aid that doesn't just get siphoned off via NGOs and compradors can actually do wonders for an economy that wants to build out its industry.

          • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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            2 years ago

            Wasn't foreign aid like 80%+ of the ROK's economy for a decade or more?

            • CTHlurker [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              I think that was for the first decade after the Korean War had ended and the Americans had flattened most of the peninsula. So I guess foreign aid was the BandAid to prevent an immediate return to communism, since being flattened tends to make people angry.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Ukraine is somewhat different bc prior to the fall of the USSR Ukraine was an economically well developed industrialized nation with modern infrastructure and a powerful agriculture industry.