Unironically quoting Liberty Prime and calling it Based
Unironically quoting Liberty Prime and calling it Based
Granted, Fallout 3 didn't seem to understand that the Brotherhood of Steel in the original games were a bunch of nasty fascists and made them "the good guys."
For REALLLL THOOOO!!!!
Fallout 3 is feels like a game made and design by people who heard about Fallout at nice low-key party. The speaker went into detail enough about what Fallout looks and how it plays but left out the nuance for conversation reason, and then Bethesda went and made a game based off that. Fallout 3/4/76 didn’t understand the “why” of anything in the in-game lore/narrative/themes. They just saw a cool dude in cool power armor and said “those guys look cool, they are now good guys.”
From what I remember from the Fallout games, the charters don't talk about or criticize the old world that much. The characters would criticize and react to the factions in their world like the Brotherhood of Steel or Enclave or whoever
I have not played the game in a long time but I don't remember anyone in game reacting to Liberty Prime speaking at all . The information about the pre-war world is there for the player as world building to show what ruined the world ( or comment on our own world)
I'm sure the satire is missed my most people, myself included. I played Fallout 3 when I was a little kid before I knew what the Cold War was lol. The audience of the original Fallout PC games in the 90s were not like that
New Vegas more directly comments on the idea of building new societies from the ashes of the old world. How each those new societies model themselves on old world views and how they all absolutely suck ass.
Rare to see a game rip into the 'Liberal Democracy' faction with actual systematic criticism rather than just "secret internal evil". The NCR are expansionist, colonial, and ultimately unsustainable and the game repeatedly points that out to they player as criticism of both the NCR and the old world system it's based on.
That's a great point! Man I've really got to visit this game. So much probably flew over my head the first time I played
BUT THE LEGION MAKES THE BRAHMIN CARAVANS RUN ON TIME :no-fash:
Niko Bellic would snap Trevor's neck.
GTA6's female protagonist should instakill him in a hit and run just to piss off gamers that rationalized fridging the franchise's only Jewish protagonist.
I love how one of the us army subreddit mods has "democracy is non-negotiable" in German as their user flair. It's just way too on the nose
I remember thinking seriously that the Helgast from Killzone were cool because their uniforms were dope. I never thought that playing Wolfenstien for the record, my point being that I just thought looking cool somehow handwaved away evil. My little PS2 brain thought it cool and tough being a stormtrooper. I was a dumb kid.
The more I think about it the entire Killzone narrative falls apart. Didn’t the UCA terracide all of Helghan at the end of 3? That’s like a turbo space war crime right?
My little PS2 brain thought it cool and tough being a stormtrooper
The Galactic Empire had more striking and memorable uniforms than the Rebel Alliance to my dumb kid brain, too. :liberalism:
If in doubt, or in danger of seeming glaringly ignorant of what a story tried to tell you, just chant "death of the author!" :so-true:
It's not even subtle. Being blatant can not stop idiots from being pointlessly contrarian. Like people claiming Odin was the good guy in GoW because he was maintaining his kingdom
I think it's more that some people have a very shallow understanding of morality which more or less boils down to "Is this guy powerful or cool?". I don't think you can find a fallout fan who thinks the enclave presidents had a point or were cool, while some for sure idolize someone like Frank Horrigan.
I think it’s more that some people have a very shallow understanding of morality which more or less boils down to “Is this guy powerful or cool?”.
It can be even more shallow and boil down to "how much screen time does this character have and are the scenes entertaining?" :so-true:
I don’t think you can find a fallout fan who thinks the enclave presidents had a point or were cool
I wish that were true, but in my experience it isn't. :doomer:
