As a bonus if you hate yourself you can read the NFO Empress put out with it too

HERE cw: homophobia, transphobia and look just most of them. Confirms herself as a terf so :stfu-terf: to her.

  • KnilAdlez [none/use name]
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    2 years ago
    CW transphobia justification

    It is always made of exactly "2" opposite forces. You can clearly see that in life as:

    -day/night

    -light/dark

    -heat/cold

    -life/death

    NONE OF THESE THINGS ARE OPPOSITES! THEY ARE ALL ONE THING IN VARIOUS INTENSITIES. LITERALLY ALL OF THESE ARE SPECTRUMS!

    • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      She's right, there ARE only two sexes: the one I have with her mum, and the one I have with her dad :gigachad:

    • wwiehtnioj [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Actually at midnight it immediately goes from scorching bright to pitch black, I don't know how you haven't noticed this.

    • very_poggers_gay [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Not only are they spectrums, those examples can't even be clearly or like "objectively" defined. Like, what is hot to one person (or group of people) might be cold to others. What is light to some can be dark to others. THEY ARE SOCIAL CONSTRUCTIONS, JUST LIKE FUCKING GENDER.

      Also, re: day/night. DUSK AND DAWN HAVE ENTERED THE CHAT.

      It's like they chose the worst examples possible on purpose :kermit-pain:

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Does she want to get cursed by Azura, daedric prince of dawn, transitions, thresholds, and grey areas? Because I feel this is how you and all your friends end up with ash skin and red eyes.

      • CriticalResist8 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        They can be objectively defined through science and explained through dialectical materialism. The subjective experience of the properties of a thing is mostly in the realm of the idealists like Kant, who said essentially a book is too heavy for an ant to lift, but not for you. But this forgets that the book still has an objective property: its weight can be calculated. Whether an ant can lift a book or not, its weight remains the same. This is the "idealist trap" Politzer talks about, where idealist philosophers fall into reducing things to an amalgam of disparate properties and never really look beyond it. A book has an objective shape, weight, colour, etc. and we can safely say a book is not the same as a page, or a note, or a pencil -- therefore we inherently understand the properties of a book.

        Empress' "problem" (she didn't really put enough thought into this drivel to make it into a coherent thing) is that she doesn't see them as contradictions, which they are. Night and day are both diametrically opposed, and one could not exist without the other -- day exists because the Earth revolves around the sun, and so there could not be life on Earth if there was no daytime or nighttime, our solar system would have to be arranged in such a way that makes no physical sense.

        It's actually an interesting example because as you mentioned, dusk and dawn exist. This is a rule of dialectics, quantitative change turns into qualitative change. As the Earth keeps revolving and rotating on itself, sunlight starts hitting the surface and we get dawn. This is a quantitative change that happens somewhat slowly (over a whole day if you want to be technical, otherwise over a few hours) and then, suddenly, it's day -- a qualitative change has happened.

        This of course applies to gender and sex as well, but not the way Empress wants it to. It's also a mistake some vulgar Marxists make, who forget that materialism is not just about atoms, but needs to consider human psychology as well as ideas and thoughts to be properly materialist and dialectical. Otherwise by the same logic we could say religion does not exist (demonstrably false) because it's just about ideas.

        • very_poggers_gay [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Really interesting thoughts!

          My point being not that these things don't exist. Instead, I'm thinking about how our everyday understanding, and the definitions most people agree upon (or the words we use to communicate ideas), are more often defined by our shared subjective experiences. In other words, the usefulness of so-called 'objective' truths is often less than the socially-constructed truths, which are influenced by time, place, and other contextual factors.

          Like heat: Scientists and many people have a deep and 'scientific' (by Western standards) understanding of thermal energy, thermal conductance, etc., but in most situations people encounter, I would argue that "hot" or "cold" is more practically defined by the subjective experience. For example, scientists can agree what a 10C air temperature means, but whether that is "hot" or "cold" will vary depending on who you ask and when. 10C on a summer morning could feel bone chillingly cold to many people, but that first 10C afternoon in Spring can feel like a warm hug. I guess this is the 'defining' vs. 'explaining' thing you mentioned? If I think about how this applies to TERFy types or transphobes, I guess they're the equivalent of someone getting hung up fixating on a rough understanding of Joules or Kelvin or some bullshit that does correspond to the air temperature outside, but says very little about what the actual experience of being outside is like?

          Night and day are both diametrically opposed, and one could not exist without the other – day exists because the Earth revolves around the sun, and so there could not be life on Earth if there was no daytime or nighttime, our solar system would have to be arranged in such a way that makes no physical sense.

          This one's interesting. It got me thinking about those communities who live too far north or too far south to experience a "night" or "day" for months at a time. Some of these towns go 100 days in a row before the sun dips below the horizon, or before it rises above the horizon. I'm not sure really what it means here in the discussion, it's just a thought that lit up my ADHD brain, lol.

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Also, re: day/night. DUSK AND DAWN HAVE ENTERED THE CHAT.

        There's like 3 different kinds of twilights plus the hour immediately after dawn/immediately before dusk called golden hour.