As a bonus if you hate yourself you can read the NFO Empress put out with it too

HERE cw: homophobia, transphobia and look just most of them. Confirms herself as a terf so :stfu-terf: to her.

  • KnilAdlez [none/use name]
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    2 years ago
    CW transphobia justification

    It is always made of exactly "2" opposite forces. You can clearly see that in life as:

    -day/night

    -light/dark

    -heat/cold

    -life/death

    NONE OF THESE THINGS ARE OPPOSITES! THEY ARE ALL ONE THING IN VARIOUS INTENSITIES. LITERALLY ALL OF THESE ARE SPECTRUMS!

    • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      She's right, there ARE only two sexes: the one I have with her mum, and the one I have with her dad :gigachad:

    • wwiehtnioj [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Actually at midnight it immediately goes from scorching bright to pitch black, I don't know how you haven't noticed this.

    • very_poggers_gay [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Not only are they spectrums, those examples can't even be clearly or like "objectively" defined. Like, what is hot to one person (or group of people) might be cold to others. What is light to some can be dark to others. THEY ARE SOCIAL CONSTRUCTIONS, JUST LIKE FUCKING GENDER.

      Also, re: day/night. DUSK AND DAWN HAVE ENTERED THE CHAT.

      It's like they chose the worst examples possible on purpose :kermit-pain:

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Does she want to get cursed by Azura, daedric prince of dawn, transitions, thresholds, and grey areas? Because I feel this is how you and all your friends end up with ash skin and red eyes.

      • CriticalResist8 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        They can be objectively defined through science and explained through dialectical materialism. The subjective experience of the properties of a thing is mostly in the realm of the idealists like Kant, who said essentially a book is too heavy for an ant to lift, but not for you. But this forgets that the book still has an objective property: its weight can be calculated. Whether an ant can lift a book or not, its weight remains the same. This is the "idealist trap" Politzer talks about, where idealist philosophers fall into reducing things to an amalgam of disparate properties and never really look beyond it. A book has an objective shape, weight, colour, etc. and we can safely say a book is not the same as a page, or a note, or a pencil -- therefore we inherently understand the properties of a book.

        Empress' "problem" (she didn't really put enough thought into this drivel to make it into a coherent thing) is that she doesn't see them as contradictions, which they are. Night and day are both diametrically opposed, and one could not exist without the other -- day exists because the Earth revolves around the sun, and so there could not be life on Earth if there was no daytime or nighttime, our solar system would have to be arranged in such a way that makes no physical sense.

        It's actually an interesting example because as you mentioned, dusk and dawn exist. This is a rule of dialectics, quantitative change turns into qualitative change. As the Earth keeps revolving and rotating on itself, sunlight starts hitting the surface and we get dawn. This is a quantitative change that happens somewhat slowly (over a whole day if you want to be technical, otherwise over a few hours) and then, suddenly, it's day -- a qualitative change has happened.

        This of course applies to gender and sex as well, but not the way Empress wants it to. It's also a mistake some vulgar Marxists make, who forget that materialism is not just about atoms, but needs to consider human psychology as well as ideas and thoughts to be properly materialist and dialectical. Otherwise by the same logic we could say religion does not exist (demonstrably false) because it's just about ideas.

        • very_poggers_gay [they/them]
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          edit-2
          2 years ago

          Really interesting thoughts!

          My point being not that these things don't exist. Instead, I'm thinking about how our everyday understanding, and the definitions most people agree upon (or the words we use to communicate ideas), are more often defined by our shared subjective experiences. In other words, the usefulness of so-called 'objective' truths is often less than the socially-constructed truths, which are influenced by time, place, and other contextual factors.

          Like heat: Scientists and many people have a deep and 'scientific' (by Western standards) understanding of thermal energy, thermal conductance, etc., but in most situations people encounter, I would argue that "hot" or "cold" is more practically defined by the subjective experience. For example, scientists can agree what a 10C air temperature means, but whether that is "hot" or "cold" will vary depending on who you ask and when. 10C on a summer morning could feel bone chillingly cold to many people, but that first 10C afternoon in Spring can feel like a warm hug. I guess this is the 'defining' vs. 'explaining' thing you mentioned? If I think about how this applies to TERFy types or transphobes, I guess they're the equivalent of someone getting hung up fixating on a rough understanding of Joules or Kelvin or some bullshit that does correspond to the air temperature outside, but says very little about what the actual experience of being outside is like?

          Night and day are both diametrically opposed, and one could not exist without the other – day exists because the Earth revolves around the sun, and so there could not be life on Earth if there was no daytime or nighttime, our solar system would have to be arranged in such a way that makes no physical sense.

          This one's interesting. It got me thinking about those communities who live too far north or too far south to experience a "night" or "day" for months at a time. Some of these towns go 100 days in a row before the sun dips below the horizon, or before it rises above the horizon. I'm not sure really what it means here in the discussion, it's just a thought that lit up my ADHD brain, lol.

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Also, re: day/night. DUSK AND DAWN HAVE ENTERED THE CHAT.

        There's like 3 different kinds of twilights plus the hour immediately after dawn/immediately before dusk called golden hour.

  • space_comrade [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    That diatribe in the NFO was fucking wild. What happens to a person that your brain breaks in such a way? This isn't some run-of-the-mill transphobia, this is pretty demented shit.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Its the sort of broken brain that apparently only happens in Eastern Europe. We just don't get this interesting kind of crazy in the west, we even had to import Tesla.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I've heard that Br*tish feminism never had anything like the Combahee River Collective to drag the middle/upper income "middle class" movement back down to the trenches with the working class and force them to understand intersectionality, so it stayed primarily a movement of middle class cis women. As a result they never had a reckoning about transgender people like 2nd wave feminism did back in the 70s and that's why there's such an entrenched TERF faction.

          • Mardoniush [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            That's not entirely true, there was a very strong Working Class and even minority movement in the 1st wave, strongly connected with Socialists, but it was stamped out, hard and violently. And the middle class women became the face of the movement.

            • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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              2 years ago

              I didn't know that. I know a bit about the 1st wave, but it's mostly just action movie stuff about the Pankhurst sisters beating the shit out of cops then tragically choosing socialism, liberalism, and fascism respectively. Can you suggest any good reading on the suppression of the working class part of the movement?

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I swear TERF brain is some kind of metaphysical thought virus. Once someone starts down the TERF path it begins to eat away at their personality and after a while there's nothing left of them but seething rage at the idea that someone might just be chilling out playing New Vegas somewhere in peace.

      • RikerDaxism [it/its]
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        2 years ago

        Once you commit to shifting the blame because it would be too costly for you otherwise (a lot of rage at men being directed at trans women) you add additional costs to not keeping the blame shifted, but it doesn't resolve your situation so you have to keep escalating

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        As an excuse for the lack of terror "had to take a nap" is one of the better ones.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        At AnarchistPrintingPress.gov we source artisanal copies of Mein Kampf by lovingly beating a fascist to death with a brick and taking theirs. Every copy we distribute has a unique blood spatter on the front, the symbol of our commitment to ethical procurement of fascist literature.

        • emizeko [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          okay well now this is starting to sound pretty reasonable

        • Outdoor_Catgirl [she/her, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          This is why Minnesota has the only ethical way for a government to have a confederate flag. By getting it from killing slavers at Gettysburg, taking it as a trophy, and refusing to give it back to Virginia when they continually ask for it since 1905. Slavers owned, and continue to cope, seethe, and mald.

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Really thoughtful of the author to make sure no alive Nazis were involved in its writing.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The only way I'm interested in seeing someone play the terf pogrom game is if someone goes through and critically analyzes the anti-Semitic shit, because I do want to know what all is in there and if there are any new tropes or dogwhistles I'm not up to date on. Aside from that? nooooooooooooooooooooo

  • Shoegazer [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Aa a result of the rise of this new WOKE movement, society now made every man today is always either a sissy bitch or misogynistic motherfucker, nothing in-between.

    :wonder-who-thats-for:

  • blight [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    beyond being terf drivel, it is hilarious because it reads like a teenager's blog edited by a newly divorced boomer

    • Red_Left_Hand [none/use name]
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      edit-2
      2 years ago

      no SPARK, doesn't hit any MARK, just keeps you in the DARK. (shredding utter buttrock guitar riffs)

    • neo [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      EMPRESS is just JK Rowling's alt account. She's busy cracking games, including her own, and can finally express herself freely in the nfo.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yes, Yin and Yang, famous for being all or nothing and never being blended or balanced in one person.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      edit-2
      2 years ago

      Oh cool, binary thinking. The very thing almost everyone recognizes as a disastrous logical fallacy.

      You either think in binary or you don't.

      Even goddamn babies know this is a trash way to view the world and always has been.

      Its a discrete and easily-digestible way to view the world, which makes it a useful heuristic for making decisions quickly and with minimal effort. Incidentally, a great way to deal with literal babies, as you give them a feeling of agency without overloading their capacity for reasoning or neglecting their health and well-being.

      Binary framing is a powerful method of shaping public discourse and public perception. Its a trash way to begin a decision making process, but typically the direction you want to move decision-making so that you can reach a final conclusive decision in a timely manner.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    everything is a duality, yet trans people are neither male nor female, interesting :thinkin-lenin:

  • Des [she/her, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    while she's absolutely a frothing unhinged TERF :trans-gun: i can't tell if she's doing some humiliation kink domme thing to her simping fanbase as well

  • CrimsonSage [any]
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    2 years ago

    I have become like 95% convinced that all of terfism is just self hatred because you can't stop masturbating to sissy porn

      • CrimsonSage [any]
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        2 years ago

        I dunno how much I believe the narrative of terfs being people who have been abused. Like yeah thats true in some cases, but it also seems to be wielded like a cuddle by people who are themselves sexual abusers. No point in arguing it though unless there is some kind of statistical analysis of ters and I don't think that is possible with how deeply ingrained nd instinctual lying is in their subculture.

          • CrimsonSage [any]
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            2 years ago

            Literally not what I said. Since you accuse me of something i exicitly didnt say, I find the argument that "abuse makes people into nazis" to be disgusting. I find the cynical claims of abuse by many terfs, claims of which there is significant legitimate doubt, to be nothing more than a cynical deployment of liberal identity politics to cover for nazis. I have found that terf culture normalizes lying for cynical political ends and that it is a legitimate position to take to doubt anything they say. I said in order to establish as fact the dubious claim that abuse makes you a terf you would need to run a fairly rigorous study, a study in light of the previous sentence I don't think could easily be done. I think it is disgusting that you attemp to use the trauma of people to excuse some of the most horrid behaviors and beliefs of other people. Strange how the majority of people I know who were abused, sexually or otherwise, somehow managed to not be fascists. Maybe stop apologizing for nazis.

  • CatEars420 [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    The WOKE leftist turned me into a SISSY bitch. Now excuse me while I watch BAMBY SLEEP in my CHASTITY CAGE