The more capitalist it becomes the more they call it communist.

I don't care that much for Hasan either way but that is a perfect take.

  • PZK [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I was actually talking about this to a friend last night the same way Hasan is now.

    Regardless of how you want to paint the actual intentions behind this move by Trump, it demonstrates why so many working class people were enamored with him. He comes off as so relatable and genuine when he tells them how he knows the food better than the kids cooking it. It doesn't matter how bullshit it is, this is why he is a champion for chuds everywhere. He's his own brand of corruption and selfishness that is at times against the establishment of America, and his fans love it. They feel like he is the successful version of themselves.

    Corpo Biden doesn't want acknowledge the derailment, and Trump makes a point to use it as political brownie points. He doesn't care if it might hurt the rail companies, he just cares if it helps himself. That is why chuds see him as this maverick when he is just as much of a corporate lapdog as anyone else. He actually makes some kind of effort to appeal to the average person.

    The Democrat's strategy is to just tell you they are not a Republican and shame you if you don't back them.

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I think people were mainly sick of the empty suit neoliberals and Trump sort of just managed to channel that

    • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      yeah, people accept false populism when theres no alternative. It wouldnt even be hard! Just seize the rail company or something. Its been done before!

    • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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      1 year ago

      Back in the fifties, you're saying "nuclear, nuclear, nuclear". But in another decade or two you can't say that anymore, so instead of "nuclear, nuclear, nuclear", you say "all options are on the table" and "American military might". But you still mean the same thing.

    • Hohsia [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      The boomers will return in 2024 to give one last “fuck you” to gen z and millennials

      • PZK [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I actually wonder if covid actually killed enough of them. So many analysts were doing all kinds of gymnastics to explain what happened in the 2022 elections because they were uncharacteristically weak for Republicans.

        With the number of people who died, and considering most of them were middle aged to elderly, I think it was enough to sway electoral results from the normal trendline. It was their election to lose and they lost many seats by very narrow margins.

        There will be even less of them in 2024. The republican party is built on boomerism and its a fading political power that has hoarded any kind of middle class wealth that existed by mortgaging the country's future.

        If electoralism is actually going to play a hand... long term I see the parties flipping if the Republicans can't win national elections anymore. The Democrats will happily become the conservative ruling party and the Republican party would have to reform and likely drop unwinnable social issues. Their dance with fascism isn't really even backed up with material conditions in the country, basically I think the fascists are playing their hand too early.

        • blobjim [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          long term I see the parties flipping if the Republicans can’t win national elections anymore.

          The Democratic Party will just knee-cap themselves more to make up for it. Normal people don't get to have any bit of input on what they're subjected to in the US.

          • PZK [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            That sounds about right. At the end of the day, they will find a way to lose because they don't want to win.

        • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          It's not that fascists are playing their hand too early, it's that fascism is more likely to come from the Democrats imo than the Republicans. I mean, it's both parties working in tandem pushing things to the right that make it work, but if anyone can convince America to 'do a fascism' it will be the Democrats.

        • ToxicDivinity [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          There are less old republican voters but the voting pool will be shrunk more than ever in 2024 due to gerrymandering and voting rights restrictions. Old crazy wealthy conservatives don't need the numbers, they have the power.

    • morte [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      He may be fake but his love of big macs is the real deal

  • shiteyes2 [any]
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    1 year ago

    He's slurring his speech just enough to fit the role of fantasy doomsday president, who else would you want narrating the log ride to hell and stochasting the proud boys into patrolling your neighborhood

    Death by fire is so much more interesting than death by ice and when you get to alternate between them you unlock the intriguing option of death by rot

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Once heard Trump described as being what working class chuds imagine they’d be like if they were rich and it makes a lot of his antics make more sense

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Maybe you didn't watch the video but Hasan makes exactly this counter argument, it doesn't matter how much BS it is or how much of a hypocritical sellout Trump is/was, the fact is he is out there gaining space and using it to manufacture the narrative while Biden is going all in on fucking Ukraine.

      Let alone the struggle session over the left and anti-war movement in the US, the post-Biden "left" with regards to political leadership is pretty much absent from every social issue period. You can extend this to RvW last year if you want to.

      If you were a gen z waking up to leftist ideology I think unfortunately it is pretty much impossible to become a socialist let alone a well meaning lib when the leadership is not only completely disconnected but only manages to be out there delivering L after L for the real average person.

  • Phish [he/him, any]
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    1 year ago

    It's obviously way too early to know who will win the primary, but part of me wonders if we're all trying to convince ourselves Trump will beat Desantis because of how fucked up Desantis is. Not that Trump is good or anything but you get what I mean.

    • Kuori [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      i know it's my explicit hope bc desantis is genuine nightmare material

      trump says he'll ban the transes, destantis will build the camps

      • Phish [he/him, any]
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        1 year ago

        I'm right there with you. I really think Trump would immediately stop giving a fuck if he got elected again. A second term Trump would have very limited motivation.

        I also wonder if republicans fucked up focusing on the trans thing so hard. They might have picked one of the few issues that will get the left to not sit this one out and actually vote for the Dems.

        • mittens [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Trump's team seems to have already pinned it on abortion, to the point where he quickly course-corrected AND went on record literally stating that the reason for the underperformance on the midterms was because the GOP went too hard on abortion. Keep in mind that this is Trump saving face after the mediocre results were squarely blamed on Trump's candidate picks, but it seems to me that the evangelist right is falling behind DeSantis and not Trump, which signals a separation on the agendas. I guess we'll have to see just how much sway the evangelist right holds over the GOP, but either way both Trump and DeSantis camps agree on how much they hate trans people.