• MaoistLandlord [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    to be fair, Joel said that what they're [the communists] doing won't work in a larger society i.e. the pre-zombie US, so I don't think they were going for that. Not to mention the director made Chernobyl which slandered the USSR

    potential spoilers

    IIRC, in the first game the settlement gets raided lol. So that'll probably be painted as "THE COMMUNISTS ARE TOO WEAK TO FIGHT!!!"

    But if I misremembered, then I guess he closest to advocating for communism in a mainstream, prestige TV show is "communism only works in communes"

      • PZK [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        but it won’t drive society forward like technological progress under capitalism

        Why didn't the free market provide the space program when the USSR beat America into space? Also why did the USSR continue to hold nearly every accolade for being the first in space exploration and pushing the envelope of aerospace technology?

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          They're liberals they don't know any of that. The world began in 2003 2008 2016 2019 2022.

        • MaoistLandlord [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I agree that the USSR won the space race if we're counting pure number of achievements, but it's a bad argument to make because they're no longer around to defend it. Similarly to how Apple is not the first to do jack shit that pushes technology, they're very good at marketing their features as higher quality and innovative to the point that people either 1.) believe Apple did everything first or 2.) Apple didn't do it first, but they did it better than the ones who did it first

      • kristina [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        technological progress under capitalism

        such nonsense. almost all the people i know working in tech are like 'ah yes, my job is bullshit, i wish i was working on something actually useful and not designing a widget to break in 2 days after someone buys it'

    • Lymbic_System [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      He takes a neutral stance, says something like back before, some people wanted to own everything, some wanted no one to own anything, she's asked where he was just trying to survive, its interesting because Joel perks up when he sees the job site and his brother, I. Think the show does a good job showing the power of the commune creating civilization again while Americanizing communism with the town being built like a old cowboy town with horses. I know there's problems with this depiction but I will take this win.

      • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        There is a minor jab in the “America was too big for communism to work” vein, but it’s definitely not propagandistic

          • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]
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            2 years ago

            It’s definitely more a “communism is when primitive communism / end stage communism,” rather than socialism with blank characteristics which, in its wrangling of the market, “overcomes” the scale issue

        • barrbaric [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Horses need a shitload of food so I'd say it's a lot more likely people would be riding bikes.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      I think it's possible that this director may be aware that this is about as far as they can go to fit communist stuff through door without the people with the money saying no to it. Given that they've now established a pattern of work that includes communism multiple times it has me wondering.

      • MaoistLandlord [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        It apparently made people upset because a single character said "yes, we're communists" for 2 seconds which is extremely funny.

        • Flyberius [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Not only that, it was a black, female communist correcting a red-blooded, male American!!!