For me, it's the bullshit where no one ever brings up the shitty working conditions or bigotry in the gaming industry, but they will come together and loudly throw a tantrum about the developers not overworking themselves to make their treat 100% what they wanted.
I swear to god, gamers are the most product-brained people on the planet, they can't comprehend the idea of a development team having a vision for a game that doesn't match their own. They pretend that their complaints are "fighting the big multimillion corporation" when really they have no problem with soul-sucking corps that treat their employees like shit as long as the product caters to their specific tastes.
People were madder about Rockstar doing a remake with graphics they don't like than the 100+ work hours they made developers do to complete RD2
They're more annoyed that the Switch doesn't have PS5 Graphics and makes "baby games for Disney adults" than they are that Nintendo of America treats employees like shit
And you know the only reason they give half a shit about Blizzard's sexual harassment problems is that in their eyes Blizzard has been making "sub-par woke garbage" these days. If Fromsoftware was harassing their workers, they wouldn't care.
Instead of addressing the issue that the industry is bad as a whole because of capitalism, they will instead demand you vote with your wallet. Calling you a shill if you like anything from whatever company they have decided they hate at the time while ignoring problems from companies that create things they enjoy. If anyone points out that ethical consumption doesn't exist then you'll be called a hypocrite.
And they can't tell the difference between defending the workers that made a product and a giant corporation, either. It's really gross how they complain about overworked underpaid workers as "lazy devs"
Gamers delenda est. :gamer-gulag:
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The contradiction in wanting games as "an art form" but then throwing a hissy fit at "just another walking sim" or any other game that tries different methods of gameplay outside of direct player input. Like it's the most digusting form of consumerism to whine and wank on about that kind of shit when no one is forcing them to play the game, but then God forbid there exists other gamers that like that type of game and it makes them "not true gamers". It seems the consistent undercurrect of gamer culture is a reactionary bend you would see with fash chuds.
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Did capital-G Gamers ever want games to be an art form? I feel like that push came from the industry itself and not the consumers. Legitimately curious.
Capital G Gamers as an identity is itself an invention of the industry, much like generational cohorts are generally an invention of the advertising industry.
Very true. Commodity fetishism all the way down. It reminds me of the console war stoking Nintendo and Sega did decades ago.
I think moreso they want games to be "taken seriously", but in my experience a lot of this sentiment is kind of based in resentment about not feeling taken seriously themselves and the whole like gamer nerd(negative) stereotype rather than a frustration with how games are treated in discussions and general discourse.
Its kind of the sportsball thing but instead of ending up in cringe elitism it ends up fascist and in a kind of "anti-intellectual" space. Games should be treated intellectually but they also want to lynch any intellectual types that apply social analysis onto games rather than I guess just talking about base emotions the game made them feel.
Summary: Gamers who talk about games as an art form sometimes actually are just projecting that them talking about feeling sad and heartbroken when a guy blew himself up in their shooter game isnt taken seriously like how people say a movie made them feel.
Nah it was a lot of gamer reaction from art critiques and movie critics claiming games aren't an art form (leading to gamer :frothingfash: ). The industry doesn't care either way it's goal is monetization of whatever is desired at the time. Though in between all this crap you get interesting indie devs and small teams trying out unique stuff similar to how artists use mediums to instill some form of interactivity with the viewer though in this case the viewer is the player/participant. Thing is art requires critique and analysis and this is something consumerist entertainment enjoyers HATE, add in gamergate and the gamer sphere was a fertile ground for further development of fash shit and reactionary content to "wokeisms".