There will be a black market for ciggs, but they don’t get you intoxicated in a way even a hundredth comparable to weed or booze, so it doesn’t seem reasonable to assume there would be a massive demand like we saw for prohibition
Then why is there a massive demand for them now? You're trying to use some sort of logic to argue against observable reality. Regardless of nicotine's intoxicating effects, millions still continue to smoke. If it was a simple "legislate it away fix" then almost no one would smoke.
Cigarettes and E-cigarettes are illegal and thus hard to access for people under 21. Since it's illegal for teens to purchase it, they won't go through the hassle of finding someone older to purchase them and no one would do them. - GarbageShoot
Wow, what a shocker. I guess you can't just think really hard and reach some measure of truth solely from that. You need to look at the material conditions and do some actual study, who would have known? It's not like this websites entire ideology is based on historical materialism and yet idealism is the sole thought process of people who use it.
Believe it or not people don't wait for the legal age to start using legal substances.
There are people who smoke who aren't of age and get their ciggs from other people purchasing them. Even banning new sales, you still have a generation of smokers who are underage to feed the black market demand. Or hell, just pay someone $5 to buy you a pack at the store.
those poor kids will have to get vape juice instead of cigarettes. the horror.
Hating young people that smoke ciggs but supporting vaping is some kind of ideology I suppose. Even if its less harmful, the same reasons apply to vaping as they do to ciggs. Just to a lesser degree.
Yes, we should make cigarettes extremely hard to purchase. We should also ban advertising for ciggs and the vast majority of the chemicals they put in them. No flavours, no methnol, no colourful packaging. - WallOfBacon
Hexbear read literally anything challenge impossible. I want to prevent children from ingesting harmful chemicals regardless if the delivery mechanism is smoke or vapour.
and this law is only addressing one of them. there's no reason to say the things you've said about this. Criticize it for not having broad enough scope if you want but "this anti-smoking law doesn't address vapes" is totally irrelevant.
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Then why is there a massive demand for them now? You're trying to use some sort of logic to argue against observable reality. Regardless of nicotine's intoxicating effects, millions still continue to smoke. If it was a simple "legislate it away fix" then almost no one would smoke.
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Cigarettes and E-cigarettes are illegal and thus hard to access for people under 21. Since it's illegal for teens to purchase it, they won't go through the hassle of finding someone older to purchase them and no one would do them. - GarbageShoot
Wow, what a shocker. I guess you can't just think really hard and reach some measure of truth solely from that. You need to look at the material conditions and do some actual study, who would have known? It's not like this websites entire ideology is based on historical materialism and yet idealism is the sole thought process of people who use it.
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For people underage they are. Which is what this entire conversation was about. Banning ciggs for people born after 2006.
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You're absolutely right.
Most drug dealers would travel partway so getting a plug would actually be easier than going to the store.
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this is banning new sales not trying to force every addict to quit cold turkey.
Believe it or not people don't wait for the legal age to start using legal substances.
There are people who smoke who aren't of age and get their ciggs from other people purchasing them. Even banning new sales, you still have a generation of smokers who are underage to feed the black market demand. Or hell, just pay someone $5 to buy you a pack at the store.
what a fucking terrible disaster of a black market.
those poor kids will have to get vape juice instead of cigarettes. the horror.
Hating young people that smoke ciggs but supporting vaping is some kind of ideology I suppose. Even if its less harmful, the same reasons apply to vaping as they do to ciggs. Just to a lesser degree.
ok so propose a law about vape shit you unfunny clown.
smdh going to bat for *cigarettes *
Hexbear read literally anything challenge impossible. I want to prevent children from ingesting harmful chemicals regardless if the delivery mechanism is smoke or vapour.
and this law is only addressing one of them. there's no reason to say the things you've said about this. Criticize it for not having broad enough scope if you want but "this anti-smoking law doesn't address vapes" is totally irrelevant.