Just a few words on this. While its true that East-Germanys efforts to "de-nazify" the state where greater than in the west, to conclude that East-Germanies institutions did not tolerate former Nazi officials would be a mistake: 1/9
he is a socdem who based himself on anti-communist fascist enablers, and openly is glad the KPD didn't come to power in Weimar Germany. He can go fuck himself. There were former nazis in gov positions, though mostly because a lot of officials with experience in the 50s where. Look to the Kasernierte Volkspolizei in the pre-DDR era. They form as Bereitschaftspolizei (alert police) right away and are German POWs the Soviets used for basic policing. By the end of the year they become larger and much more controlled. By '52 the organization was nearly a hundred thousand and was becoming more of a proper defense force with stricter ideology and more suitable membership than the bottom of the barrel. '56 they become part of the NVA.
Later a new Volkspolizei-Bereitschaften paramilitary force for internal policing is formed.
In 1949 they had been purged, literally anyone who had been in the Wehrmacht and POWs of any allied countries, anyone who had fled to the DDR from German settlements in occupied Poland, and those with family in the west. After the 1953 uprising the government purged 12,000 members as well due to the unpopularity of the SED at the time, they felt a new direction was needed. Probably why they went with a more paramilitary approach later
The NVA had former fascists as well, because of course it would, however they were largely kept on a short leash, with political control being entirely in the hands of those thrown in concentration camps and those who had fled to the USSR before the war. The DDR had a party for former Wehrmacht the NDPD which was a thing to give an outlet to the people who made up the base for fascists to build upon, disgruntled veterans and the like.
So Three Himmlers here is saying that a small controlled party of former wehrmacht is in the same league or even relevant to mention compared to literal SS members and Hitler's inner circle leading the POLICY of the FRD. Because again, he literally would rather the the SPD have stayed in power than the communists, he was an amount of fascist policy and action he is willing to condone as to maintain "democracy"
Guy is a well read shit-lib, social fascist as Stalin would say. You dont need to heed his bullshit, it is coming from a place of bad faith and rehabilitation of nazis and their enablers. A regular centrist. Ask yourself why he is so concerned to stress this point? Why he mentally NEEDS to treat it as a spectrum and not two fundamentally different nations and societies. Dan Three Swastikas is a lib and super fucking rude to downright racist to Luna Oi
I'm increasing convinced that the first and most important litmus test in politics is "do you believe private property should be allowed?" No? Okay, maybe you've got legitimate politics. Yes? Fascist, by short roads or long.
This was part of the "OMG owning a small section of a farm is capitalism, lol fake commie tankie" shit
https://twitter.com/LunaOi_VN/status/1458248847155556352
https://twitter.com/LunaOi_VN/status/1458331982425886720
he seems to have deleted his initial post but not the super condescending reply when she called him out on being so wrong that wikipedia can debunk him. He treated her like a child
As someone said in the replies
Dan is just reminding us what that 3rd arrow stands for.
So Three Himmlers here is saying that a small controlled party of former wehrmacht is in the same league or even relevant to mention compared to literal SS members and Hitler’s inner circle leading the POLICY of the FRD.
The men of the Waffen-SS were soldiers like everybody else ... try to explain to other countries that the Waffen-SS had no connections with the Sicherheitsdienst and Gestapo! Try to explain to people that the Waffen-SS has not shot any Jews, but instead was a formation of soldiers that was most feared by the Soviets.
They were allowed to form a secret army the Schnez-Truppe which German intelligence gave approval to kill communists in case of civil war, though not much else is known though many members became NATO leaders.
Chancellor Kurt Georg Kiesinger was a Nazi party member along with 24 other cabinet members. Richard Jaeger was Justice Minister and had been a member of the SA.
Half the justice ministry were Nazis for 2 decades, including some particular monster. Men who had the ability to give out death sentences had deported Jews in Greece for instance. Your life could be decided by these fuckers, "justice" was handled by actual fascists.
Die Linke revealed a list of government officials who had been Nazi party members.
I know it is wikipedia but its a good paragraph
Several amnesty laws were also passed which affected an estimated 792,176 people. Those pardoned included people with six-month sentences, 35,000 people with sentences of up to one year and include more than 3,000 functionaries of the SA, the SS, and the Nazi Party who participated in dragging victims to jails and camps; 20,000 other Nazis sentenced for "deeds against life" (presumably murder); 30,000 sentenced for causing bodily injury, and 5,200 who committed "crimes and misdemeanors in office".[102] As a result, many people with a former Nazi past ended up again in the political apparatus of West Germany. In 1957, 77% of the German Ministry of Justice's senior officials were former Nazi Party members
he is a socdem who based himself on anti-communist fascist enablers, and openly is glad the KPD didn't come to power in Weimar Germany. He can go fuck himself. There were former nazis in gov positions, though mostly because a lot of officials with experience in the 50s where. Look to the Kasernierte Volkspolizei in the pre-DDR era. They form as Bereitschaftspolizei (alert police) right away and are German POWs the Soviets used for basic policing. By the end of the year they become larger and much more controlled. By '52 the organization was nearly a hundred thousand and was becoming more of a proper defense force with stricter ideology and more suitable membership than the bottom of the barrel. '56 they become part of the NVA.
Later a new Volkspolizei-Bereitschaften paramilitary force for internal policing is formed.
In 1949 they had been purged, literally anyone who had been in the Wehrmacht and POWs of any allied countries, anyone who had fled to the DDR from German settlements in occupied Poland, and those with family in the west. After the 1953 uprising the government purged 12,000 members as well due to the unpopularity of the SED at the time, they felt a new direction was needed. Probably why they went with a more paramilitary approach later
The NVA had former fascists as well, because of course it would, however they were largely kept on a short leash, with political control being entirely in the hands of those thrown in concentration camps and those who had fled to the USSR before the war. The DDR had a party for former Wehrmacht the NDPD which was a thing to give an outlet to the people who made up the base for fascists to build upon, disgruntled veterans and the like.
So Three Himmlers here is saying that a small controlled party of former wehrmacht is in the same league or even relevant to mention compared to literal SS members and Hitler's inner circle leading the POLICY of the FRD. Because again, he literally would rather the the SPD have stayed in power than the communists, he was an amount of fascist policy and action he is willing to condone as to maintain "democracy"
Guy is a well read shit-lib, social fascist as Stalin would say. You dont need to heed his bullshit, it is coming from a place of bad faith and rehabilitation of nazis and their enablers. A regular centrist. Ask yourself why he is so concerned to stress this point? Why he mentally NEEDS to treat it as a spectrum and not two fundamentally different nations and societies. Dan Three Swastikas is a lib and super fucking rude to downright racist to Luna Oi
Liberals hate socialists more than they hate fascists, same as it ever was
I'm increasing convinced that the first and most important litmus test in politics is "do you believe private property should be allowed?" No? Okay, maybe you've got legitimate politics. Yes? Fascist, by short roads or long.
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This was part of the "OMG owning a small section of a farm is capitalism, lol fake commie tankie" shit https://twitter.com/LunaOi_VN/status/1458248847155556352 https://twitter.com/LunaOi_VN/status/1458331982425886720
he seems to have deleted his initial post but not the super condescending reply when she called him out on being so wrong that wikipedia can debunk him. He treated her like a child
As someone said in the replies
Like I said, social fascist
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But they make artificial islands, so they are expanding :kelly:
He could also be referring to their waistline, as many formerly living in extreme poverty are now able to eat a proper amount of food!
Source for a list of them?
Not to doubt but ✍️
To what? The SS members?
FRD Chancellor Adenuer said of the SS
They were allowed to form a secret army the Schnez-Truppe which German intelligence gave approval to kill communists in case of civil war, though not much else is known though many members became NATO leaders.
Chancellor Kurt Georg Kiesinger was a Nazi party member along with 24 other cabinet members. Richard Jaeger was Justice Minister and had been a member of the SA.
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/2016/1011/Report-Germany-s-post-World-War-II-government-was-full-of-Nazis
Half the justice ministry were Nazis for 2 decades, including some particular monster. Men who had the ability to give out death sentences had deported Jews in Greece for instance. Your life could be decided by these fuckers, "justice" was handled by actual fascists.
https://www.ww2inprague.com/articles/the-role-ex-nazis-played-in-early-west-germany
Die Linke revealed a list of government officials who had been Nazi party members.
I know it is wikipedia but its a good paragraph
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nah I just quoted it. its from denazification