• doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Even the left-wing ones have been glued to Ukraine news and believe Putler is dying from 10 different terminal diseases and wants to recreate the Russian Soviet Empire and become Premier Czar before he dies from ligma

    Early on I tried to talk about the origins of the civil war and the West's involvement in it, pointed out the Black Sun patches, etc but they looked at me like I was talking about QAnon

    • ElHexo [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      For approximately 20 years, multiple sources have regularly reported that the president of Russia Vladimir Putin is weeks or months away from death or medical incapacity.

      At various points, it has been rumored that he is suffering from terminal thyroid cancer, blood cancer, abdominal cancer, Parkinson's disease, leprosy, serious surgery complications, the aftereffects of a stroke, or that he is, in fact, already dead.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictions_of_Vladimir_Putin%27s_death_or_incapacity

    • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      :yea: I overheard some pretty standard liberals talking about how the slav brainpan is just terminally locked into the murder & pillage pathway because of the MONGOLS, and I just about flipped a table

      • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        Russian Revolution, Stalin's purges, Winter War, Continuation War, Finlandisation, glasnost, perestroika, Berlin Wall is mainly what I remember from school

        • DoubleShot [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Berlin Wall gets talked about a lot in US schools, too. It's supposed to be this thing that's representative of everything that's bad about communism but the reality is that more innocent people have died in one month of US drone strikes than were killed trying to climb the wall over four decades (the number is about 140).

          • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            Yes

            Edit: it's not a Texas-level situation though. Pretty sure the origins of the Winter War, the proposed land trades etc were all explained in high school

            Don't remember much about the concentration camps, though that might be on my part

            Teenage me "whatever, the Russians started it :vivian-shrug: "

            Finnish culture loves their mythologised WW2 narratives and their veterans though which might stick in your mind more than history lessons

            • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              Also, the civil war discussion is tainted by this too. The reds were horrible looters and ill-disciplined raiders and the magnificent whites were pure and noble heroes.

          • invanity [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            There was a recent Finnish movie called Sisu about the Nazi occupation of Finland during WW2. It was an amazing example of whitewashing propaganda that the Finnish position was neutrality/independence and that the Finns hated both Soviets and Nazis. The basic story follows a Finnish character in Lapland who's being chased by Nazi soldiers who want to steal his gold. It's mentioned in passing that he is a loose cannon solo soldier with dozens of confirmed kills of Russians, and so the Nazis better run if they're smart.

            Maybe ironically the story is ripped from the Russian character Koschei the Immortal (Кощей Бессмертный).

            Sisu, by the way, is a Finnish word that refers to the fighting spirit, grit and perseverance of Finns during the winter war.

    • invanity [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      I recently read a Finnish conspiracy is that the Putin surname comes from Poutiainen and his ancestors are from Oulu :thonk: