• SuperZutsuki [they/them, any]
    hexbear
    70
    24 days ago

    Imagine being the "labour" party, gaining that much of a majority, and not nationalizing everything

  • wombat [none/use name]
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    61
    24 days ago

    uncritical support for the DPRK in its heroic struggle to liberate occupied Korea from the genocidal American empire

    • EllenKelly [comrade/them]
      hexbear
      14
      24 days ago

      Labour parties in the commonwealth have always been imperialist trash, it pains me to see people sweep that under the rug

      • @ComradeEchidna
        hexbear
        16
        24 days ago

        Lenin calling out Australian Labor over a century ago.

        A general election recently took place in Australia. The Labour Party, which had a majority in the Lower House—44 seats out of 75—was defeated. It now has only 36 seats out of 75. The majority has passed to the Liberals, but this majority is a very unstable one, because 30 of the 36 seats in the Upper House are held by Labour.

        What sort of peculiar capitalist country is this, in which the workers’ representatives, predominate in the Upper house and, till recently, did so in the Lower House as well, and yet the capitalist system is in no danger?

        An English correspondent of the German labour press recently explained the situation, which is very often misrepresented by bourgeois writers.

        The Australian Labour Party does not even call itself a socialist party. Actually it is a liberal-bourgeois party, while the so-called Liberals in Australia are really Conservatives.

        This strange and incorrect use of terms in naming par ties is not unique. In America, for example, the slave-owners of yesterday are called Democrats, and in France, enemies of socialism, petty bourgeois, are called Radical Socialists! In order to understand the real significance of parties, one must examine not their signboards but their class character and the historical conditions of each individual country.

        Australia is a young British colony.

        Capitalism in Australia is still quite youthful. The country is only just taking shape as an independent state. The workers are for the most part emigrants from Britain. They left the country at the time when the liberal-labour policy held almost undivided sway there, when the masses of the British workers were Liberals. Even now the majority of the skilled factory workers in Britain are Liberals or semi-Liberals. This is the results of the exceptionally favourable, monopolist position enjoyed by Britain in the second half of the last century. Only now are the masses of the workers in Britain turning (but turning slowly) towards socialism.

        And while in Britain the so-called Labour Party is an alliance between the non-socialist trade unions and the extremely opportunist Independent Labour Party, in Australia the Labour Party is the unalloyed representative of the non-socialist workers’ trade unions.

        The leaders of the Australian Labour Party are trade union officials, everywhere the most moderate and “capital serving” element, and in Australia, altogether peaceable, purely liberal.

        The ties binding the separate states into a united Australia are still very weak. The Labour Party has had to concern itself with developing and strengthening these ties, and with establishing central government.

        In Australia the Labour Party has done what in other countries was done by the Liberals, namely, introduced a uniform tariff for the whole country, a uniform educational law, a uniform land tax and uniform factory legislation.

        Naturally, when Australia is finally developed and consolidated as an independent capitalist state, the condition of the workers will change, as also will the liberal Labour Party, which will make way for a socialist workers’ party. Australia is an illustration of the conditions under which exceptions to the rule are possible. The rule is: a socialist workers’ party in a capitalist country. The exception is: a liberal Labour Party which arises only for a short time by virtue of specific conditions that are abnormal for capitalism in general.

        Those Liberals in Europe and in Russia who try to “teach” the people that class struggle is unnecessary by citing the example of Australia, only deceive themselves and others. It is ridiculous to think of transplanting Australian conditions (an undeveloped, young colony, populated by liberal British workers) to countries where the state is long established and capitalism well developed.

        • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]
          hexbear
          4
          23 days ago

          Naturally, when Australia is finally developed and consolidated as an independent capitalist state, the condition of the workers will change, as also will the liberal Labour Party, which will make way for a socialist workers’ party.

          doomer

  • RNAi [he/him]
    hexbear
    54
    edit-2
    24 days ago

    Watch them be worse than Blair Labour

    For succdemocracies to work they need The Spectre breathing on their neck

        • SexUnderSocialism [she/her]
          hexbear
          5
          23 days ago

          That's the point. They've already been positioning themselves as an even more right wing Labour under tory that would give Blair's Labour a run for their money. They seem to give zero fucks, and have gone mask off in all areas before they've even been voted in yet. That doesn't bode well.

  • supafuzz [comrade/them]
    hexbear
    50
    24 days ago

    sicko-wistful if only "labour" were some kind of shorthand for the Worker's Party. juche is the future Britain needs

  • grandepequeno [he/him]
    hexbear
    44
    24 days ago

    It's going to be pretty funny when Labour has this much power and shit will still get worse

  • WIIHAPPYFEW [he/him, they/them]
    hexbear
    42
    24 days ago

    It’ll be so funny for the libdems to be the main opposition lmao

    (To their credit a lot of them are probably to Starmer’s left)

  • ksynwa_from_lemmygrad [he/him, des/pair]
    hexbear
    41
    24 days ago

    Absolutely crazy how shambolic Tories. Just a lineup of the most belligerent psychopaths imaginable.

    Labour will probably be what Tory voters expected the Tories to be.

  • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
    hexbear
    38
    24 days ago

    I guess it is democracy because they will be governing like the UK conservatives anyway.

    • plinky [he/him]
      hexbear
      24
      24 days ago

      Sturmer kissed the ring of murdoch, why would there be? Blair was also beloved

  • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
    hexbear
    26
    24 days ago

    Genuinely don't believe this for a second, it's gonna be a win for the blairite ghouls but I don't think it'll be that much of a blowout nor do I think the LibDems will do that well, or SNP that poorly.

  • Redcuban1959 [any]
    hexbear
    21
    24 days ago

    They will have all these seats and still do nothing good with them, just like the Democrats.

  • Mindfury [he/him]
    hexbear
    17
    24 days ago

    bro what the fuck, surely the tories are not getting routed this hard?