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Microsoft is looking for user feedback on ads it's putting into the Windows 11 Start Menu for its products and services. If responses on Reddit is any indication, the response hasn't been great.

The software vendor has for months been playing around with putting ads – or at least in the case of the Start Menu, notifications – about its services in the operating system as well as the Bing search engine, PCs, and other products.

Talk of such notifications in the Start Menu began circulating in November 2022. In March, with the KB5023778 preview build, Microsoft began sending them out to a few users, with the promise the practice would be more widely deployed in the following months.

With the Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 23435 that was dropped into the Dev Channel late last week, the company is "continuing the exploration of badging on the Start menu with several new treatments for users logging in with local user accounts to highlight the benefits of signing in with a Microsoft account (MSA)," Amanda Langowski, principal product manager for the Windows Insider Program, and Brandon LeBlanc, senior program manager at Microsoft, wrote in a blog post.

And it's all about signing up for a Microsoft account, with messages stressing such advantages as the ease of backing up the device, personalizing the security settings, and accessing data from anywhere. Also, an account means getting Microsoft 365 – and all the cloud-native benefits – for free.

Langowski and LeBlanc reiterated that Redmond uses the Dev Channel to try out various concepts to get comments. They could also find some feedback from users on Reddit, many of whom are not happy about the idea.

"This is what a monopoly is like adding in things to trick and inconvenience you," one user wrote. "Whoops I just pushed an update that sets your browser to Edge, have ads as notifications and Teams and OneDrive unable to be removed from the system."

They added: "Honestly I want them to continue adding this … because the more they do it the more likely Windows will drive people elsewhere like the Chromebooks, Linux... etc. Legacy software will only keep people around for so long, enterprise will probably stick around for a long time but average consumers can do other things."

"The moment I see ads in the OS that I can't disable I'm out," another wrote. "Tech is supposed to empower us, not capture us."

That said, opinions about this are not universally negative. Having a couple of ads pop up on occasion is better than the alternative, one user noted.

"Thinking realistically, every software I use with the notable exception of Windows and DaVinci Resolve switched to a subscription model. If Microsoft doesn't do that and pushes its OneDrive and 365 subs via the task bar every now and then I'm personally okay with that. Better than paying $$$ every month just to use the OS."

Others noted that there have been ads in both Windows 8 and 10 that hawked OneDrive, so what Microsoft is doing with Windows is nothing new and surprising, they said. And the ads are inevitable, another wrote.

"With how weak the public is these days I honestly don't see enough people making a fuss long enough for anything to be done, and this is going to become a norm," they wrote. "It probably won't be as bad after they figure out the kinks, but it's gonna stay here forever with how people are." ®

        • dumpster_dove [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Windows has detected an unfamiliar bootloader

          "I'm afraid I can't let you boot that, Dave."

          • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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            1 year ago

            Windows on BIOS systems was the worst. At least with UEFI there is not master boot record for it to fuck up every once in a while.

      • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        I just had this thought...

        Imagine every time you clicked on anything in the o/s - you got an unblockable, unstoppable ad that could only be clicked closed. And because it's MS - sometimes there's an ad loop situation where you can't do anything because the ads can't be dismissed. In fact - clicking anything simply adds yet another ad to your screen. And rebooting doesn't work because after it restarts - the situation is exactly the same.

  • ennemi [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I've had this discussion with many people over the years. First as Android became more and more of an ad swamp, and again lately as Microsoft has been doing the very same thing with Windows. They don't care just as long as it doesn't get in the way. That, or they've got hyper-terminal baby duck syndrome and think you need a Ph. D in computer magicks in order to use anything.

    Fucking adverts are the thing that will finally turn me into a complete hermit.

    • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      The more ads I see for a thing the more I revile it. I want to go back in time and drop napalm on Madison Avenue.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I'm Pop_OS and like it, it's basically the zoomer distro.

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Ubuntu has worked for me. It just works. I don't need to know much and all I had to do was google how to use linux specific .zip files

    • TheBroodian [none/use name]
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      edit-2
      1 year ago

      I'm also on Pop_OS, and I've landed on it as my home OS after trying quite a few different ones for having the best compatibility, stability, and working-best-out-of-the-box

    • KnockYourSocksOff [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Pop OS is decent but is barebones. If your computer skills are boomer level where unplugging your computer seems scary, then it’s not right for you.

      Linux Mint is another popular choice but runs slow on my old laptop which is frustrating and surprising.

      • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        I built my current system and I've used Linux before, it was just fairly limited learning commands and basic programs for a couple 1 unit classes.

  • volcel_olive_oil [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    every second of extra animation in Windows is millions of work hours lost

    every ad it loads in the background untold gigawatts of electricity wasted

    a billion people use their operating system and they think that gives them mandate to make it more inefficient, each and every day

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    How I sleep not dealing with Microsoft's bullshit even though not every program runs well on Linux :sleepi:

  • fox [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Thinking realistically, every software I use with the notable exception of Windows and DaVinci Resolve switched to a subscription model. If Microsoft doesn’t do that and pushes its OneDrive and 365 subs via the task bar every now and then I’m personally okay with that. Better than paying $$$ every month just to use the OS.”

    Ten years ago you could buy software once and own it outright, and now everything is a goddamn subscription that costs more over a year than just outright buying it even at inflates prices. The only halfway decent software subscription I've seen is Jetbrains because you get to keep whatever you bought at the version you bought it forever, the subscription just lets you get updated versions. And it gets cheaper over time too.

  • barrbaric [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Weren't there ads natively in Windows 10's start menu already that you had to disable?

    • wopazoo [he/him]
      hexagon
      ·
      1 year ago

      I think these are a bit different from Candy Crush in your start menu.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      It takes some hardware muscle to pump more ads your way. :capitalist-laugh:

  • makotech222 [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    There's a news story about ads in windows every couple months. I have a pirated win11 enterprise installed, + explorerpatcher, never seen any ads. Its just as good as win10 but with some nice new features as well.

  • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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    edit-2
    1 year ago

    I left myself logged into the family laptop last week and one of my kids accidentally updated to Windows 11.

    In other news, Mint seems pretty nice so far.