• FidelCastro [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    this seems less like an intentional act of sabotage and more of an extremely obvious incident of blowback for being incompetent.

    I'm also extremely skeptical of anything cominy out of gray zone after their antivax conspiracy theorist spiral.

    RT seems to be reporting on it at lesst. Should obviously be something folks consider with a grain of salt.

    • Dr_Gabriel_Aby [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      there are two options:

      1. a guy in the crown princes family totally owned the CIA with a couple of choice fabrications and promises, and the American Empire needed to desperately save face.
      2. George HW Bush is the most evil human being to ever hold a position of power and he blew up his own people and millions of others for oil profits in the literal twilight of his life and after being president, really during a period where it material meant nothing to him or his family.

      I go back and forth on the issue every single day

      • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        blew up his own people

        This echoes the atrocity propaganda that America produces about socialist countries. Is it really any more morally evil than blowing up people of other countries? I believe that the stewards of the American Empire simply don't care about the lives of collateral plebeians---regardless of nationality.

        During the Iran-Iraq War, Iraq accidentally blew up an American warship and Vice President Bush basically said "no worries", because it was merely incidental to their objectives in the region.

        • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah their biggest concern unironically would be the rich motherfucker that owned the property. And wouldn't you know it? He JUST bought the darn place and this whole goddamn building is filled to the brim with asbestos which needs to be painfully and carefully removed in a lengthy expensive process every single time they want to do any renovations whatsoever to any part of the building.

          If only some horrible disaster would knock it all down and his insurance would cut him the fattest check known to man

        • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
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          2 years ago

          'During the Iran-Iraq War, Iraq accidentally blew up an American warship and Vice President Bush basically said “no worries”, because it was merely incidental to their objectives in the region.'

          What do you mean by this - 'incidental to their objectives in the region'?

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          Is it really any more morally evil than blowing up people of other countries?

          A domestic people are necessarily more vulnerable to a domestic government than a foreign people to that government.

          So, its the moral distinction between jumping a random kid in an alley and beating up your kid in their own bedroom. The power dynamic is especially fucked.

      • FidelCastro [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        the first one makes more sense. I doubt HW was doing shit at that point besides binge drinking and golf.

      • RuthlessCriticism [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Bush doing 9/11 makes him at most marginally more evil. When you have a million black marks to your soul 3000 more means barely anything.

    • FidelCastro [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      @notthenameiwant can you add "were allegedly CIA recruits"? I don't want to take this down, but I want it to be clear this is from a shaky source and also inconclusive