At engagements from 1-4 yards, people don't fucking miss that often.

Someone doesn't need to be a practiced marksman to make standard shots at that distance. Anyone can do it, which is what makes guns dangerous in the first place. Ware dumped his magazine into two "trained" guys at close range and they had no time to do anything.

Rittenhouse should have made it obvious, but just because someone is an unathletic nerd without motor skills doesn't mean they can't be dangerous.

Thus, chasing down or tackling a maniac with a gun is a context-specific action. Only worked in the Rittenhouse case because his back was turned.

Don't be stupid.

  • Reversi [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    The police officer that was killed said a week before that he was hesitant to use lethal force due to public opinion. This probably kept David Ware from being shot outright. And this was in Oklahoma.

    Every manual on guerilla warfare emphasizes the importance of public opinion.

    The problem here is that the police have a propaganda machine and the counter-propaganda is essentially livestreams and social media.

    What does this mean? Every dead cop will be leveraged against the working class, easily. Every dead civilian will have to brought to light, because no one else will do it.

    Fighting back when cops come to kill you means you've probably already lost. The effort should be in proving to as many people as possible the corruption and sadism of the cops--and the amount of resignations and closer scrutiny shows this has some effect.

    This is all taking place in the imperial core so it's an impossibility, but still.

    • communistthrowaway69 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      I would rather they were afraid of real organized retaliation, than any public "perception" which the vast majority don't give a single shit about.

      There's not a guerilla war I can think of that doesn't leverage making populations feel insecure and forcing them to pick the insurgency over the occupiers. And there's never going to be a "popular" US insurrection. The best you can hope for is like 25% sympathy. But that's all you really need if it's the right people.

      I'm not like, excited, or even optimistic, that violence will accomplish anything.

      But there is no other way out now. No one is going to turn this shit around, and it's going to get worse no matter how nice people are.

      Be realistic about this trajectory, and you realize that really the only possibility is that untraceable, unpreventable violence against the state makes their enforcers too sheepish to do anything meaningful, and then hopefully some real praxis grows in that unenforceable space.

      But like, the idea that if we just keep letting people get shot, cops are gonna feel bad, or politicians are gonna start cracking down on them? That's just a fantasy at this point. It is downhill from here.

      • Reversi [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Like I said before, this is the imperial core. Any real or organized attempts to self-police communities or protect citizens will get torn apart--either externally or by saboteurs. The moment a vacuum shows up the wreckers and opportunists will get sent in.

        The point isn't that cops will feel bad or politicians will feel bad. The point is to make cops feel unwelcome and unwanted, to lower morale and make being a cop no longer prestigious. That every action they take will lead to funding cuts, to fingers being pointed around the station to find a fall guy, for politicians to start running on reining in the police, for kids to stop saying they want to be a cop when they grow up, for cops to be removed from school campuses, for ACAB and 1312 to show up in mainstream culture, for people to stop calling the police unless they absolutely have to.

        If they have a concrete enemy, they will destroy it, and they will have their sycophants ready to justify every last killing. The cops will never be 'sheepish' if the attack is directly against them.

        Be prepared to defend yourself, obviously. But this isn't about revolution or insurrection, this is about something much less complex that crosses ideological boundaries (albeit inconsistently).

    • AnarchoFash [any]
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      4 years ago

      Reminder that MLK had 63% disapproval rating before his death. It's always been known that propaganda machines would be used against leftist movements, hence "the revolution will not be televised".

      By the way, "you should die to prove that there's corruption" is such a lib take. If every cop today became leftists there would still be 200 years of American history to support disbanding the organization.

      • Reversi [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        “you should die to prove that there’s corruption”

        Let's at least argue amongst ourselves in good faith