• MattsAlt [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Readers wanted to add context that years of being unhoused and treated as less than human saps your humanity and leads to mental health degradation plus more interactions with pigs. This means it's ok to kill these people now

    :what-the-hell:

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      It's purported by some studies, not without a lot of controversy, that mentally ill people are more violent than neurotypicals. Setting aside all the prejudices and all the ways studies could be warped (studying prisoners, believing things the cops and courts say), the sheer amount of violence, torture, neglect, deprivation, and discrimination faced by mentally ill people would account for any small increase in violent behavior many times over.

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        did they account police violence as violence commited by neurotypicals or did they consider that many policemen have latent psychopathic tendencies and thus count as neurodivergent

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        2 years ago

        It’s purported by some studies, not without a lot of controversy, that mentally ill people are more violent than neurotypicals.

        Pretty well established that high levels of stress and subsequent PTSD tend to lead towards shorter tempers and more violent behaviors. Similarly, malnutrition heightens aggression (ask literally anyone with low blood sugar issues what it does to their attitudes) and sleep deprivation heightens aggression and physical discomforts from extreme temperatures or chronic pain heighten aggression. All of this is correlated with mental illness.

        These are all environmental factors, though. If you don't like dealing with people who are sleep deprived, malnourished, in chronic pain, and under enormous amounts of stress... there is an abundance of social policy at hand to fix all of these problems. It all just costs material resources and human labor. And, in America, that means it costs money. So we don't do it.

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        If society treats a group more violently, especially from a young age, that group will on average be more violent. It seems simple enough.

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Hell, even ignoring the mental health aspects, I recall seeing a study that suggested that the unhoused have brain damage from physical trauma at like 10x the baseline rate, and that the longer someone was unhoused the more likely they would also suffer trauma resulting in brain damage.

  • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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    2 years ago

    the 40 arrests shit is so fucking disingenuous when being homeless is basically illegal in this country.

    when the revolution comes i'm gonna petition the people's council to let me form a group to hunt down these blue check morons and beat their asses in their front yards, jay and silent bob strike back style

    • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I met a guy that lived in a small rural town who told me he'd been pulled over by the cops at least a hundred times, probably looking for a half gram of weed they could give him a DUI for.

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      2 years ago

      they really could just skip all the bullshit and say they're fine that a man was murdered because he was homeless. and a lot of them do just say that outright.

  • frednotthefeds [love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    Doesn't him being arrested 40 times inherently imply he was never arrested for any actual crime?

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Theoretically he could have been convicted a few times (probably on a plea deal) and done a few months or years, but it suggests that he was indeed arrested many more times than he was convicted because no one serves 20 prison sentences by the age of 30.

      It's a super common tactic among people who vilify the homeless to suggest all arrests or even most have even the slimmest bit of legitimacy rather than cops just bullying vulnerable people who live near where a crime happened before releasing them on dropped charges.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      Every single arrest was justified because he didn't have any money to pay to expunge his record.

    • very_poggers_gay [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Imagine if all of the time and money invested in each of those 40+ arrests was instead invested in providing him with basic human needs

    • 7bicycles [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      no, it means some bureaucrat got him off on a technicality, don't you watch SVU / CSI / CSI: Miami / CSI: it's actually the navy?

  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I'm shocked that a homeless person has been arrested a lot. It's almost like there a bunch of laws on the books specifically designed to put people like him in jail.

  • iridaniotter [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    America needs to be occupied by a joint-dictatorship of the proletariat of oppressed nations. The property of the churches, media companies, etc. must be seized and all pastors, news anchors, and so on vetted by JDPON functionaries. Every Twitter user must be retroactively de-anonymized and accordingly sent to re-education. The exurbs must be demolished and its petty bourgeois inhabitants sent to urban or rural communes. English as a de-facto official language of the world must be replaced by a truly international and decolonial language - Lingwa de planeta - while settler inhabitants of Turtle Island are taught the local languages. Unlimited genocide upon the first world etc etc :xi-god-emperor: :nuke:

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Oh thank god he was a convict, that makes it morally right to extra judiciously murder him now, PHEW! I thought we had a racist murder on our hands.

    • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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      2 years ago

      As far as i know he wasn’t even charged with anything it may as well be “the police bullied him a lot bc he was unhoused so it’s morally right to extra judiciously murder him”

      • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Literally murdered for being a nuisance. To think someone like Eric Andre could have been shot and killed for his NYC subway skits.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Being arrested and being a convict are not remotely the same. If he was a convict, they would let you know.

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          No worries, I just wanted to emphasize it because nowadays it is really popular to cite prior arrests even if the person was never or rarely convicted, because people just assume arrests indicate convictions (because why talk about flimsy charges that were dropped?)

          I agree that there is the additional level that even if this dude had 40 convictions, he's still a human being, but we shouldn't let chuds get away with warping reality by pretending that a poor person with so many prior convictions would even be allowed to walk free in his 30s, it's part of a larger narrative that pretends our penal system is "soft" on "dangerous criminals".

          • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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            2 years ago

            Wild that they even think the usa is soft on crime when we jail the most people in the anglosphere. It used to be on earth at one point, I think another country surpassed us.

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      4 months ago

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      • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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        2 years ago

        Americans turn a blind eye to abuse and dehumanization.

        i honestly would say they dont even turn a blind eye to it as much as expect and approve of it. Americans have an obsession with the idea of law breakers being punished (violently) for transgressing. You see that shit everywhere, youtube videos and subreddits dedicated to people "getting what they asked for." My brother used to be a corrections officer at a prison and he'd tell people all the time about how theyd "get" to beat the shit out of one of the inmates bc they did x, y, or z.

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          4 months ago

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        1 year ago

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      18 days ago

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  • mkultrawide [any]
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    2 years ago

    It's funny that the Community Notes thing will eventually open up Twitter to libel lawsuits.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The people who can afford to sue usually won't be the ones suffering libel.

  • cactus_jack [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    All the fascists abandoned twitter for gab and truth social. The zombie scratch of Elon must have turned a bunch of liberals.

  • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Fuck community notes, as if the truth needed to be a democracy even further.