President issues 'important instructions' to all regions to boost party control over private enterprise and rejuvenate the nation; all firms will need employees from the party to boost law abidance and moral standards
It certainly seems to be a very dangerous game, and I'm aware that my perspective on this is very narrow since i'm in the west and i can't speak/read mandarin.
This seems to take the right direction, and from what i've heard I feel like xi's fight against corruption and the infiltrated capitalists is going well. Still, the contradictions of the current chinese model are a dangerous game to play, but I still think it was a good choice to make and a good strategy because it's allowed them to gain strength without too much opposition for a while, and the west genuinely seems to have been fooled for some time. Would china have been better off going the more soviet way and becoming economically isolated, wouldn't they still have the same attempts at capitalist infiltration?
I don't know nearly enough about china but this is making me very, very interested.
Unironically yes, I kinda want to learn it. I don't know what the best way to do it is, maybe we could organize something on here or the discord to do it because it's much easier with other people and when you can actually speak and practice out-loud.
I feel like the understanding of china has progressed a lot in the western left, or at least on places like these.
I mean myself, just a few months back, I didn't think much of china and fully accepted the idea that they were an authoritarian state-capitalist country and had communism or socialism only in name.
I also fully bought the narrative around Xinjiang and HK, etc.
I've learned a TON in just the past 2-3 months and i'm still learning, thanks for those sources!
Leftists need to have grand vision and start to think how to carve a path for socialism in this time of crisis.
it's precisely for having done this that we support the actions of the CPC, their decisions were correct under the conditions that were imposed on them
doesn't mean it would be correct for america, or even other third world countries such as mine (though it would definitely be more fitting in our cases for reasons that should be obvious)
you seem to think your point of view is "balanced" and "rational", when it's precisely the opposite, you're making statements while treading on the surface
reality is way more complicated than you think, and marxists need to know how to deal with contradictions. the CPC has shown a surprising ability to do this and their syntheses, most of the time, make perfect sense under their situation
i don't understand how so many socialists are fine with the idea of transitioning from socialism to communism, but as soon as you talk about transitioning from capitalism to socialism (with a revolution first so that the bourgeoisie isn't in power), something LENIN could see like 100 years ago with the NEP, you guys go haywire. like, why is this so controversial lol
It certainly seems to be a very dangerous game, and I'm aware that my perspective on this is very narrow since i'm in the west and i can't speak/read mandarin.
This seems to take the right direction, and from what i've heard I feel like xi's fight against corruption and the infiltrated capitalists is going well. Still, the contradictions of the current chinese model are a dangerous game to play, but I still think it was a good choice to make and a good strategy because it's allowed them to gain strength without too much opposition for a while, and the west genuinely seems to have been fooled for some time. Would china have been better off going the more soviet way and becoming economically isolated, wouldn't they still have the same attempts at capitalist infiltration?
I don't know nearly enough about china but this is making me very, very interested.
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We should probably start learning Mandarin so we can stay informed. I know that sounds extreme but leftists need to start doing stuff.
Unironically yes, I kinda want to learn it. I don't know what the best way to do it is, maybe we could organize something on here or the discord to do it because it's much easier with other people and when you can actually speak and practice out-loud.
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Take a course. Learning mandarin in a group without experienced teachers will take you a decade.
Community colleges/university language courses can be surprisingly cheap too.
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I feel like the understanding of china has progressed a lot in the western left, or at least on places like these. I mean myself, just a few months back, I didn't think much of china and fully accepted the idea that they were an authoritarian state-capitalist country and had communism or socialism only in name. I also fully bought the narrative around Xinjiang and HK, etc. I've learned a TON in just the past 2-3 months and i'm still learning, thanks for those sources!
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it's precisely for having done this that we support the actions of the CPC, their decisions were correct under the conditions that were imposed on them
doesn't mean it would be correct for america, or even other third world countries such as mine (though it would definitely be more fitting in our cases for reasons that should be obvious)
you seem to think your point of view is "balanced" and "rational", when it's precisely the opposite, you're making statements while treading on the surface
reality is way more complicated than you think, and marxists need to know how to deal with contradictions. the CPC has shown a surprising ability to do this and their syntheses, most of the time, make perfect sense under their situation
i don't understand how so many socialists are fine with the idea of transitioning from socialism to communism, but as soon as you talk about transitioning from capitalism to socialism (with a revolution first so that the bourgeoisie isn't in power), something LENIN could see like 100 years ago with the NEP, you guys go haywire. like, why is this so controversial lol