sorry yall, oppression is when the goverment builds affordable housing
:reddit-logo: users would rather people be homeless than live in efficient homes that don’t look like McMansions
Found the information, been learning some basic Chinese. Hefengyuan in downtown Shanghai is 2900-3300 yuan (400 usd) a month for a 1 bedroom, 1 living room, 1 kitchen and 1 bath apartment of 44 square meters. For a dormitory/studio apartment one bedroom of 29-39 meters, it is 1500-2000 yuan (200 usd) a month. Per capita disposable income in Shanghai is 79,000 yuan, so it is likely these public housing units are designed to attract rural people to move to a more central location in order to increase wealth.
There are no limitations on who can apply to be in the public housing other than citizenship, a writ of disability or hardship, and/or local employment from what I can tell. There is a lot of jargon that I ran into a translator and it makes me scratch my head. It is very easy to get employment in China so thats neat
2000 = 2.53% of 790004000 = 5.06% of 79000Absolutely incredible level of affordability if that is the income you can expect to have for the area. Comparable with the Soviet Union even.Im pretty sure that is yearly disposable income, but yes, it is much better than where I live currently. That means about 7000 yuan a month, and a cheap apartment is 2000-3000 yuan a month. My apartment takes up more than that by a long shot (average income for local area is about 35k USD, apartment costs 29k USD a year, and this is one of the cheapest I could find). Should be noted that 82% of the Shanghai population owns a home (up from 36% in 1997), so these sorts of public housing units are almost certainly designed to be a temporary measure for poorer migrants that are new to the city and have employment lined up. And considering that the home ownership rate is going up, whatever the CPC is doing is working.
Oh lmao I never thought to check what the conversion was. Yeah that's a lot more. Edited.
how much is the monthly minimum wage worth in china? idk anything about the details of china at all
Shanghai's minimum wage is the highest in China (its region based), they get 2,590 yuan (400 usd) a month. Should be noted that they do have reduced prices based on need but I am unable to decipher what that tallies out to. So at minimum they can afford a studio apartment for half their wage with zero programs.
Shanghai is probably the easiest city in China to find international info on btw, a lot of expats there
They also regularly raise minimum wage, as regions are encouraged to compete with each other to draw more rural people in. From what I can tell they raise the wage every year / every other year
considering its downtown im impressed. in america thats pretty much impossible to have a lower income affordable place downtown
Would be really interested to get numbers and eligibility details if anyone speaks Chinese that is able to dig it up. Would be super interested in doing comparisons with various western policies, I don't even expect it to be better on all aspects compared to some in europe as they're still developing but seeing where they're at with it would be very interesting. It might pop up some interesting talking points to use.
Wow I can’t believe this literally 1894 by Feroge Ornell about susviet onion
Damn, and this is from a city that America worships hardcore.
:wojak-nooo: but what about the designated shitting streeterinos
I thought it was relatively understood at this point that "towers in the park"-style neighborhoods like this were pretty bad urbanism? Like there's a lot of unnecessary extra walking built in here. These buildings also don't look particularly mixed-use, which implies to me that you have to travel for everything.
10 minutes walk from any amenities they’d need
The English warned me about 15 minutes cities, but this is even worse
Unfortunately a great deal of China is still towers-in-a-park style urbanism, which isn't ideal, but as Dolphin explains it still works.
Like there’s a lot of unnecessary extra walking built in here.
I'm seeing roads in between the blocks and curbside drive ups. I'm willing to bet there's a rail pickup nearby.
Are you just worried about the existence of trees?
