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  • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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    As the only goblin slayer defender on this site I disagree. At least for the anime they sexual violence is excessive, but exactly what a porly socialized edgelord would think is artistic. It centers the victims experience and how it isn't good actually. That is the only anime I know about that is anti sexual violence. It has themes there that a better writer could have really gotten work down with. There are plenty of anime sexual assault fans and they don't claim the show. The vibes are bad because it hit the exact mid point of not going far enough in any direction. I think if it had been a blatant exploitation anime it would have done very well commercially and people would have just written it off like all the other pro SA anime they ignore.

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      • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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        It is fash, but the fantasy genera is always kinda fash. That is true. Japan do be like that in general. If we accept the premise that goblins are like chimpanzees but obligate paracites, the protagonist is an underpaid exterminator. Which is an interesting lense through which to view the show.

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          • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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            I mean, mosquitos and chimpanzees exist. A creature that combines the charactistics of both is an effective horror creature. It had less sexual violence than it's contemporary Sword art. At no point was the violence ever treated as bad or with consequences in sao. In contrast GS had multiple plot arcs about ptsd. There is something interesting and good there. It is way better than any mainstream anime has any right to be. Yeah it isn't perfect, but it represented a possible future where anime got better instead of worse. It just cooks my noodle that people got mad at the anime that swung and missed more than the animes that never tried.

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              • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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                I had never heard of the termination argument. That is all of of nerd culture. If we can't talk about defending the jedi because the force wills it than there is no point to even having the conversation. We have to at least accept it to engage in the game.

              • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Yes, mainstream anime is garbage.

                There is a difference vetween accepting the nazi argument and the fantasy argument. We're Hitler correct about inferior people the correct solution would be to help them not exterminator them.

                I know dialog is cheap. There are multiple scenes where characters talk about wanting to find a better way but the people with money don't care to try. The Bourgeois are explicitly called out for making it all worse.

                Which is exactly how the real world deals with sexual violence and mosquitos. If goblins like in the story were real but just killed a few poor people every now and again we would handle them exactly how the nobility in the show does. Just occasionally sending exterminators when profits go down.

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                  • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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                    That is lazy on my part. However mosquitos are intelligent creatures and deserve life as much as any other. They just happen to be obligate paracites. Which is uncomfortable.

                    Goblins are shown to be roughly chimpanzee smart, with similar temperament. The sexual paracitism was created by a dark God that hated people if I recall the lore correctly. Yes it is all fake and artificial. However if we aren't going to let the writer write what is the point of even having the conversation? Given the McGuffin constraints the show does interesting things with them. There is a bunch of dumb edgelord shit but under that is stuff more interesting than most random anime have. It is like French new wave cinema except the bar is lower.

                  • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    The premise of the story is what do you do when you only have bad choices. It is grimdark. If we don't belive grimdark has artistic merrit that is fine. If we grant that it can however, the artistic statements made by this show are more interesting than those made many shows we would consider unremarkable.