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  • Cromalin [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    You have to stay away from discussions on Russia or Israel but for most other things it's quite pleasant and less debate bro-y than reddit

    why do you have to stay away from israel? i mean, russia can be a little touchy but :thonk:

    • Dr_Gabriel_Aby [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      There are American leftists out there who literally believe everything we do domestically, but eat up every piece of CIA and state department propaganda.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      The perception of anti-Israel being the same thing as antisemitism is still around. The Israel lobbyists (and the CIA, probably) have done a masterful job of interlinking the idea that Judaism is the same thing as Zionism, and they're both manifest as the state of Israel. It's an incredibly efficient mental block that tempers any liberal criticism of Israel and it makes us look like racist antisemites.

      Most of us seem to call for the complete dissolution of Israel as a state. Liberals already think BDS is antisemitic, so imagine how we sound.

      • Cromalin [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        oh i know all that, it's just very funny that people apparently enjoys spending time on here without realizing that

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          These dopes don't realise they're directly supporting the concept of ethnostates by tying those two things together too.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I wonder if normal people (libs) actually believe the "roger waters is a fascist" bs that's been the big thing lately.

        • Smeagolicious [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          Well my well meaning left-lib long time Pink Floyd enjoyer friend was vocally disappointed when Waters said “China not bad” a couple years back. I 100% believe people will buy into it

        • femicrat [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          They'll believe whatever they're told to believe. It's not about convincing people with evidence (that's debatebroism) but it's about telling them they aren't accepted by the ingroup if they don't. Since being accepted by the ingroup is the most important thing in their lives, you could tell them shit tastes good and they'd eat a mouthful. The alternative is to be The Other, cast out, downvoted and banned, in the dunk tank with Matt Walsh and Elon Musk.