• emizeko [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    In the United States, for over a hundred years, the ruling interests tirelessly propagated anticommunism among the populace, until it became more like a religious orthodoxy than a political analysis. During the Cold War, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them.

    Parenti, Left Anti-communism: The Unkindest Cut

  • KiaKaha [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Without reading, let’s see if I can guess it.

    1. Employing people to collect garbage is a form of social control by keeping unemployment low.
    2. Using the military to plant trees is a way of keeping a military employed and ready to murder protesters/freedom fighters/contras at a moment’s notice.
    3. Using the military to plant trees is pro-military propaganda.
    4. Addressing people’s concerns about the environment isn’t because the Party cares about the environment but rather because they fear an uprising if they don’t.

    Someone who’s willing to subject their eyeballs to The Economist: how did I do?

    • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
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      4 years ago

      The funniest part is that it's #1 but without the second part. It's literally "They're making people recycle and punishing you if you don't!!!!!!"

      • KiaKaha [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Oh so it’s just the rubbish sorting scheme stuff, but bad because fining people for poor trash disposal is authoritarian.

        I’m a little surprised the Economist isn’t gushing about how this appropriately attributes externalities of poor recycling to the end users. Maybe they’d like it more if there were a recycling credit trading scheme attached.

    • yang [they/them, any]
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      4 years ago

      Sadly, it's behind a paywall/registration. I'd rather not go through that effort.

    • DivineChaos100 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      To be fair #1 is actually a thing (idk if it is in China, but in Hungary unemployed peole are put into a public work program which is basically picking up garbage or working on some of the mayor's lands because corruption. Oh and they get paid half of the minimum wage.

  • Blurst_Of_Times [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I have to piss in a cup so my potential employer can sort though my piss for evidence of thought-provoking substances, otherwise I don't get a job.

  • Itsmyusername [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Western propaganda isn't even trying anymore. They just add "china bad" to literally anything done in China. How dare those evil communists... Clean the environment?

  • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Here's the full article for those who can't get past the paywall

    full article

    IT IS TIME that civic-minded Chinese become better acquainted with rubbish, suggests Chen Yu, a retired publisher from Shanghai, at the end of a Saturday spent counting litter on the banks of the Yangzi river. This afternoon’s survey has a scientific purpose. Undaunted by the muggy heat and mosquitoes of late summer, Mrs Chen and three dozen other volunteers sort river debris on a concrete breakwater, before weighing and recording each pile on a smartphone app. The heap of takeaway food packaging is dismayingly large, and there are a surprising number of shoes.

    The data are being collected by a Chinese environmental group, Rendu Ocean, which runs 90 coastal monitoring sites with the help of about 1,000 volunteers. Mrs Chen, who also has an unpaid post helping neighbours navigate Shanghai’s strict new rubbish-recycling rules, is not surprised that the beach cleaners are mostly young and female. Older men can be conservative and easily embarrassed, she says, and this sort of volunteering is still rather new in China. Now 74, she is glad that youngsters are joining the cause: “It’s good for the country, as well as the environment.”

    That patriotic note is echoed by Liu Yonglong, Rendu Ocean’s founder. He emphasises that his non-profit organisation’s work on the environment is complementary to that of the state. The enthusiasm of volunteers is “our comparative advantage to the government”, he says. “The disadvantage is that of course we are not as professional. That is where the government can come in.”

    The official connections of Chinese NGOs often make foreign campaign groups wary, report the authors of “China Goes Green”, a new book that analyses the country’s stated ambitions to build an “ecological civilisation” and then share that model with the world. One of the co-authors, Judith Shapiro of American University in Washington, DC, records a discreet approach from a Dutch foundation that wanted to give an award to Ma Jun, founder of the Institute of Public and Environmental Affairs, a well-known Chinese NGO, but wondered whether he was “sufficiently independent of the government”. Wrong question, replied Ms Shapiro, urging the fretful Dutch to understand the scrutiny applied to Chinese civil-society groups, including “chats” over tea with security officials. Mr Ma has enlarged the boundaries of what is allowed, she argued. His group has empowered citizens to report polluters, helping allies within government to enforce environmental rules.

    Successful green policies in China share common elements, the book argues. They eschew rigid targets and top-down solutions that “cut everything with the same knife”, to borrow the Chinese phrase for one-size-fits-all prescriptions. Success stories also typically involve the state working with volunteer groups and seeking input from civil society. The book cites a reforestation scheme in the late 1990s in the Loess Plateau of north-western China. Designers spent two years consulting local farmers and scientists, tailoring their plans to local conditions. Orchards of walnuts and dates, shielded by desert willows and traditional landscaping techniques, slowly returned life to barren lands. Later, when impatient officials tried to scale up the scheme with the mass-planting of a few types of fast-growing, water-hungry tree, they failed.

    As well as showing the limits of central planning, the book argues that China’s rulers use greenery to cloak their long-standing authoritarian ambitions. Nomads in Inner Mongolia or Tibet were once stripped of their herds and forcibly moved to drab housing blocks in the name of modernity. Now they are subjected to “ecological migration”, ostensibly to save grasslands from their grazing animals. Vast hydroelectric dams are still built over the objections of locals and environmentalists, but now in the name of fighting climate change. Abroad, China stresses the green credentials of its global infrastructure scheme, the Belt and Road Initiative. It delivers cheap technologies to developing countries. But its leaders’ green conscience is selective. In pursuit of national interests they send fishing fleets to pillage far-off seas. They sign opaque contracts with foreign governments to build coal-fired power stations, polluting mines and habitat-wrecking dams. They often rely on authoritarian allies to quell local protests. Eco-authoritarianism as a means or an end?

    In such cases, domestic and global environmental harms can be attributed directly to ruthless, top-down Chinese governance, suggests “China Goes Green”. That matters because a growing number of foreign observers ask whether China’s model of decisive, technocratic one-party rule might be Earth’s last, best hope, at a time when liberal democracies seem unable to act. Essays and books have appeared with titles like “Will China Save the Planet?” and “The Coming of Environmental Authoritarianism”. Such works typically praise Chinese promises to fight climate change, and its hefty investments in wind farms or electric vehicles. But then, too often, some foreign admirers turn to wondering—with varying degrees of regret—whether the coercive powers of a dictatorship may be the only way to curb unsustainable ecological behaviours.

    Examine the record, and in reality Chinese authoritarianism more often undercuts green goals. At moments, it is hard to tell whether the driving force behind a green policy is a desire for a cleaner environment, or an obsession with social controls. Take Shanghai’s recycling rules, which came into force in July 2019. Though the regulations address a real problem, they are fiddly and onerous and reek of distrust for residents. Li Yifei of New York University in Shanghai, the other author of “China Goes Green”, reports conversations with rubbish inspectors in that city, discussing their powers to rummage inside residents’ refuse sacks and to punish those who dump garbage outside approved hours. Soon, several inspectors boasted, bins will have facial-recognition cameras to catch violators, bringing an “orderly future” a step closer. Yet a truly sustainable future needs more than order and rules: it relies on citizens’ free choices. Coercion cannot save the planet.

    • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Nomads in Inner Mongolia or Tibet were once stripped of their herds and forcibly moved to drab housing blocks in the name of modernity. Now they are subjected to “ecological migration”, ostensibly to save grasslands from their grazing animals.

      Love hand wringing like this while just across the border, Mongolia proper's grasslands have been decimated by cashmere goat herds that are totally unregulated. Coincidentally, this all happened almost immediately after the fall of the Mongolian communist government. :thinkin-lenin:

  • AFineWayToDie [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    They only support releasing children from the adrenochrome-harvesting facilities so the parents will vote for them!

  • MoralisticCommunist [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If the government does anything that affects society is social control and therefore bad, that's why we need to let corporations rule everything in an ancap feudal utopia!