“I am sick & disgusted by Roger Waters’ obsession to belittle and trivialize the Shoah & the sarcastic way in which he delights in trampling on the victims, systematically murdered by the Nazis,” [EU antisemitism envoy] von Schnurbein wrote. “In Germany. Enough is enough.”
yes this is still about him honoring a victim of the Israel's genocide alongside Anne Frank
Roger Waters has been doing this exact same shit since the nineteen-fucking-seventies
And they just decided a week ago that it's anti-Semitic
I don't want to live on this planet any more
So it's the usual "daring to compare Israel's treatment of Palestinians with Nazi treatment of Jews"? Okay, well here's a Jewish Harvard professor and daughter of a Holocaust survivor doing the same thing, because Israel fucking sucks:
"As with the Holocaust, I tried to remember my very first encounter with the occupation. One of my earliest encounters involved a group of Israeli soldiers, an old Palestinian man, and his donkey.
Standing on a street with some Palestinian friends, I noticed an elderly Palestinian walking down the street, leading his donkey. A small child no more than three or four years old, clearly his grandson, was with him.
Some Israeli soldiers standing nearby went up to the old man and stopped him. One soldier ambled over to the donkey and pried open its mouth. “Old man,” he asked, “why are your donkey's teeth so yellow? Why aren't they white? Don't you brush your donkey's teeth?”
The old Palestinian was mortified, the little boy visibly upset. The soldier repeated his question, yelling this time, while the other soldiers laughed. The child began to cry and the old man just stood there silently, humiliated. This scene repeated itself while a crowd gathered. The soldier then ordered the old man to stand behind the donkey and demanded that he kiss the animal's behind.
At first, the old man refused but as the soldier screamed at him and his grandson became hysterical, he bent down and did it. The soldiers laughed and walked away. They had achieved their goal: to humiliate him and those around him.
We all stood there in silence, ashamed to look at each other, hearing nothing but the uncontrollable sobs of the little boy. The old man did not move for what seemed a very long time. He just stood there, demeaned and destroyed.
I stood there too, in stunned disbelief. I immediately thought of the stories my parents had told me of how Jews had been treated by the Nazis in the 1930s, before the ghettos and death camps, of how Jews would be forced to clean sidewalks with toothbrushes and have their beards cut off in public.
What happened to the old man was absolutely equivalent in principle, intent, and impact: to humiliate and dehumanize. In this instance, there was no difference between the German soldier and the Israeli one.
Throughout that summer of 1985, I saw similar incidents: young Palestinian men being forced by Israeli soldiers to bark like dogs on their hands and knees or dance in the streets."
- Sara Roy, Harvard professor and child of a Holocaust survivor:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/03064220308537274
Sure is strange how the only people who get labeled anti-Semite by the "official sources" are also anti Imperialism/Fascism :thonk:
for what? literally what does this have to do with the US government? this is fucking celebrity gossip. no one in this story is an amerikkkan.
Looks like the core of the article is a written statement from the U.S. State Department, reaffirming a quote-tweet by Deborah Lipstadt, the U.S. special envoy to combat antisemitism:
“The concert in question, which took place in Berlin, contained imagery that is deeply offensive to Jewish people and minimized the Holocaust," the department said. “The artist in question has a long track record of using antisemitic tropes to denigrate Jewish people.”
Maybe next we'll hear from the energy department that they have secret proof that Waters is antisemitic
Remember; The state department is quietly not-so-quietly supporting the Baltic's :balticsburning: "Double Holocaust" narrative right now to get support from the Baltics, fascists in Ukraine, and other Eastern European revisionists.
He seems to have become more of a target since he pushed against the Ukr narrative as well.
Images on social media showed Waters firing an imitation machine gun while dressed in a long black coat with a red armband. Police confirmed that the costume could constitute a glorification, justification or approval of Nazi rule and therefore a disturbance of the public peace.
Waters rejected those accusations in a statement on Facebook and Instagram, saying “the elements of my performance that have been questioned are quite clearly a statement in opposition to fascism, injustice, and bigotry in all its forms.”
:freeze-peach: is under attack in :germany-cool:
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He asserts that the portrayal of an unhinged fascist demagogue has been a recurring element in his shows since Pink Floyd’s The Wall in 1980.
Waters draws upon his personal history, mentioning that his parents fought against the Nazis during World War II, with his father paying the ultimate price.
He emphasizes his lifelong commitment to speaking out against authoritarianism and oppression.
While Germany strictly prohibits the display of Nazi symbols, exceptions can be made for artistic or educational purposes.
So very ridiculous to pearl clutch over this stuff. Is Zionist Fragility a term yet?
anti-zionist, pushes against ukraine, also doesnt think china is the most evil country in human history
Only accusing the wall of being antisemitic after its been performed for fifty years already just because the author came out against your policy is just using the language of defending minorities to further your political aims.
I definitely think they've made mistakes with some things in their shows in the past, it's particularly difficult to defend the flying pig with the jewish star, but that was a single show and removed thereafter. Even the ADL defended it at the time as not being antisemitism.
These are politically motivated attacks on him for his position on Ukraine and being anti-Zionism.
Also apparently that particular pig had both a cross and a crescent on it, and no one seems to have bothered being concerned about the potential islamophobia of that(general statement, not meant to be accusatory.)
Hey! :maybe-later-honey: We're also prioritizing Freedom
Also fr, if you're going to cancel an old rock star, you'll have to reach past a lot of low-hanging fruit if you want to pick Waters. Elvis, Mick Jagger, Stephen Tyler, and Axel gunsNrosesguy just off the top of my head
My copy of Washington Bullets came with a blurb from Waters on the cover comparing Prashad to Eduardo Galeano. So I'm gonna guess Waters has a better understanding of history than most of the people denigrating him right now.
I feel like one the more insidious aspects of shit like this is that it gives a lot of ammo to actual antisemites who are always on about the "ZOG" and shit like that. Literally the US state department condemning an old musician because of obnoxious Eve Shartflow-type nerds on Twitter having meltdowns is exactly what chuds want to use as propaganda.
Ah yes the US, the one who is in a good position on the issue of race
The comments on yahoo.com are surprisingly decent actually. Nobody seems to take this seriously.
