https://knockout.chat/thread/49398/46#post-1821471

  • Lester_Peterson [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    This is the posting equivalent of a drunk guy in the bar starting an argument on a subject he learned about five minutes ago. I wouldn't even call this post misinformed, because I can guarantee no actual research went into it. Its more blind conjecture oriented around an unshakable belief that all things Western are inherently good, and everything Russian is trash, and extending that formula to everything imaginable.

    The M2 Bradley, one of Ukraine's latest wunderwaffe's, is famously cramped (because they had to fit all the missiles and auto-cannon rounds somewhere) and even in Iraq never came with AC, or much of anything else in the way of crew comforts. Real life cross-section's of the Leopard 1 also show that they're similarly crowded and uncomfortable for the crew. By contrast late-Soviet designs like the BMP-3 or BTR-90 did make some efforts to improve passenger ergonomics with both featuring more cubic space and better stabilizers than comparable NATO designs, while also managing to fit in such quality of life improvements as toilets and AC.

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      The M2 Bradley, one of Ukraine’s latest wunderwaffe’s, is famously cramped (because they had to fit all the missiles and auto-cannon rounds somewhere) and even in Iraq never came with AC, or much of anything else in the way of crew comforts.

      Folks watch the Pentagon Wars movie and you'll quickly see how jank our military is.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      There's a reason Mao said "No investigation, no right to speak"

  • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    "Boy I sure do wish we got to ride in all these comfortable, expensive, heavy Western vehicles that bunched up and were destroyed in a minefield instead of our still functioning, not blown up BMP"

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    The more this guy punches me, the more he risks breaking his hand or getting tired. Intellectual checkmate.

  • rubpoll [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Some tacticians say a soldier's armor should allow him to blend into the environment, so he'll be harder to spot and hit.

    The Galactic Empire staunchly disagrees with this premise.

    If the enemy cannot see your glorious white plasteel armor, how will they marvel in your excellence??

  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Just like the morale loss from capturing Ukrainian cities and discovering paved roads

  • FortifiedAttack [he/him]
    hexagon
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    1 year ago

    Bonus brainworms:

    You know, there’s another gain to Ukraine using western vehicles. Ukraine can use captured Russian Vehicles, but Russian can’t do the same to captured western vehicles

    • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Of course, because capturing your opponents equipment has no purpose other than turning them around and sending them back to the front!

      What's that? They can be analyzed and subjected to testing to better determine enemy capabilities and weaknesses? All that tech can be studied for possible countermeasures? Naw that doesn't sound right, the slavic brainpan isn't capable of doing that

      • FortifiedAttack [he/him]
        hexagon
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        1 year ago

        Or even be studied for improvements to your own equipment.

        You'd think they'd be a bit more worried about the secret sauce of their Wonder Weapons being leaked, no?

        • WashedAnus [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          That's why they're just sending the neutered export variants.

  • wild_dog [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    yes if i captured someone's" way better" tank i would totally feel worse instead of feeling like a bad ass that now has a better tank.

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    the T-14 Armata is the most advanced tank in the world, and due to the autoloading uncrewed turret, the crew of three is seated in an armoured capsule in the front of the hull

    • SlyBlue [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Is it? Idk shit about tanks but all the tank girls I know are really chilly on the Armata (while like loving the t-34 or whatever was used in ww2)

    • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      As if the soviet union and later Russia haven't had factories churning out ak-47s and derivatives for 70+ years now

      • Weedian [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Enemy at the gates was one of the most successful pieces of propaganda of this generation

        • panopticon [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          literally just taking rumors about the sorry state of the Russian army in 1917 and transposing them into 1942

          • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            enemy at the gates is a fictionalized film about Vasily Zaitsev, a highly decorated soviet sniper
            in the film, he is forced to charge the nazis without a rifle

            • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              I remember reading a comprehensive takedown of the movie once, and how the actual river crossing depicted in the infamous scene was done by a well-equipped and already-veteran unit that spent days prior training for it and then crossed uncontested in the middle of the night.

              • Weedian [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                It’s both, the game took inspiration from the movie

    • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      DPR/LPR did use Mosin rifles for rear area troops for a while, until Russia provided them with enough AKs.

  • Weedian [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I think I’d rather be in a mediocre armed vehicle on the side with a functioning Air Force, air defense, and a 10/1 artillery ratio but go off

  • iridaniotter [she/her, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    :geordi-no: The Russians will lose morale after seeing how much better our tank blast doors are

    :geordi-yes: The Japanese will lose morale after seeing we have a naval ship just for making ice cream

    • mkultrawide [any]
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      1 year ago

      TIL about ice cream barges. The American Empire has clearly always run on treats.

  • WeedReference420 [he/him, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    This has the same energy as a guy I went to school with who got his ass kicked in a fist fight but kept bragging about how he "got more combos".