"We should support whatever the enemy opposes and oppose whatever the enemy supports."

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/works/red-book/quotes.htm

For a better context, see this: https://hexbear.net/comment/3563148

It makes more sense to "support" Putin because this conflict is not happening in a vacuum and its outcome also is important to the conflict between Russia and NATO. Wagner winning would probably represent -- at best -- another 1993 and may in fact be much worse depending on the influence of genuine Nazis. Mutual destruction would also, much more directly, represent another 1993 because it would mean NATO can roll in whether via tanks or corporate stooges and take over.

Third campism is trot bullshit and should not be supported.

Also the comment right below that one:

To be fair, most Western leftists never read Mao so they never understand why Trotskyism will never work in the third world (yes I consider Russia to be a third world resource colony to the neoliberal West).

Mao gave a special place to the (Chinese) Trotskyists and equated them to 汉奸 (lit. Han Traitors, or traitor to the Chinese people), which is probably the worst insult you can ever get from someone like Mao.

The Trotskyists wanted the Chinese communists to do Lenin’s “revolutionary defeatism” by abandoning collaboration with the national bourgeoisie (i.e. the KMT), but instead act on defeating the KMT government right when the Imperial Japanese Army was rampaging through China. According to the Trotskyists, solidarity with the working class of other countries is all that is needed, and they were willing to let the Japanese imperialists conquer the mainland if that could lead to some universal solidarity among the oppressed class.

This is how fascism wins. The Chinese Trots were hated throughout the country and it would take until the 1970s to see a small resurgence among the Hong Kong leftists.

This is why those of us who grew up reading Chinese history just roll our eyes when we see Western leftists calling for “revolutionary defeatism” in Russia because the exact same thing happened to China more than 80 years ago! The defeat of the bourgeois government in Russia means the victory of the fascists and Western imperialists.

Once again, read Mao (start with the Selected Works of Mao Zedong).

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    • commiewithoutorgans [he/him, comrade/them]
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      Which errors are you thinking of here for the "stalinist" comintern? I do think there were some, but I'd be interested in your specifics which Mao did not make.

      I am just wary whenever someone says "Stalinist" honestly. Stalin made errors as an ML, which we can learn from, not as a "stalinist" or whatever I think. And to be clear, I actually think this needs to be expressed similarly to Mao, at least before the GPCR, though I still think these can be understood in ML philosophy for the most part.

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        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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          Wang Ming is recuperating in Moscow now, and we have to elect him as a member of the Central Committee. He is a teacher of our party, a professor, a priceless treasure that cannot be bought with money. He educated the whole party not to follow his line.

          Fuckin' brutal

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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        yastreb is talking about Stalin wanting the CPC to self-liquidate and join the KMT, which is terrible advice. Plus, there was a faction within the CPC who were too accommodating towards the Soviets that Mao had to eventually purge.

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      Shitposting / Anti-Sectarianism

      I often have fun with this part:

      To overcome the difficulties, defeat the enemy and build a new China, the Communist Party must expand its organization and become a great mass party by opening its doors to the masses of workers, peasants and young activists who are truly devoted to the revolution, who believe in the Party's principles, support its policies and are willing to observe its discipline and work hard.

      Here no tendency towards closed-doorism should be tolerated.

      But at the same time, there must be no slackening of vigilance against infiltration by enemy agents.

      The Japanese imperialist secret services are ceaselessly trying to disrupt our Party and to smuggle undercover traitors, Trotskyites, pro-Japanese elements, removed and careerists into its ranks in the guise of activists. Not for a moment must we relax our vigilance and our strict precautions against such persons.