So many libs are gonna be down and out after this, like they’re not gonna believe that wandering shouting VOTE at random people couldn’t get them the win. We need to have like pamphlets and memes we can spam literally fucking everywhere to highlight the failures of the dems and give people resources to learn more about communism
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Biden would probably win a fair election
So would Hillary and Gore.
Not really. Bush and Gore were nearly neck and neck, and Gore lost more because Florida rigged the election, but it was very tight. Hillary lost because of our idiot electoral college system. Biden has polled well above what either of them did consistently for the past six months.
OK.
My point was more that they both lost very narrow races, and Hillary lost pretty much fair and square.
Under the rules of the current electoral system yeah I guess she lost fairly. But I wouldn't call the current system anything close to fair. The narrowness of the races has nothing to do with anything.
The current system isn't fair, but when you run you're agreeing to the terms. She had the opportunity to overrun her polls but she didn't--she took the last few weeks of her campaign to fuck around in Arizona like a dipshit.
And the narrowness absolutely counts. Ballot box bullshit really only impacts (only, I say, as though percentage points aren't reflective of hundreds of thousands, but still) maybe 1 to 2% of the vote. Which is a lot, but if it's not a narrow race, that doesn't matter. The American electoral system is fucked, absolutely, but the only times Republicans have won in the past 20 years are when they were in a narrow race where they could throw their weight slightly in one direction or in Hillary's case, watch her spit up on herself.
this place's take on the election are very dumb. he might lose, sure, but it's not looking likely. all signs are pointing to a biden win, and its not like the election is that far away either.
It's accelerationist wishful thinking plus a healthy dose of paranoia. Either 2016 or 2000 broke their brains, depending on how old they are, but I went back recently to look at how Bush/Gore went and I didn't realize that Bush regularly polled ahead of Gore. Now do I think Florida did some fuckery to tilt things their way? Sure, the Bushes are a ruthless dynasty of fuckers who do anything and everything to gain power. But if it wasn't so close, that wouldn't have mattered anyway.
I think the emphasis on accelerationism is misplaced. If Trump wins the libs will double down, sure there will be a small faction who just loses hope in the dems... but we'll just move futher into fascism, which doesn't immediately mean "things get really bad and libs wake up"... the economy will likely rebound and patriotism and all that shit will be on the rise.
It won't lead to any kind of collapse, at least in the next 10 years.
A Trump term 2 would have less media hysteria, because all of the hysteria between '16 and today was setup to damage his re-election chances..... I have a strong suspicion they will just go back to business as usual in a 2nd term.
Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump won if everyone cooled off a bit, that was the case with Dubya round two.
like i get all the institutions suck, voting is rigged and all but its not like the democrats have never won an election lmao. the controlled opposition part is that biden is running, not that he might win
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