Its a big club and you're not in it (well maybe YOU are, fucking redditors) epstein

Woody Allen is the most bourgeois filmmaker I've ever seen. Can you name a single black person in his countless whitewashed movies about "iconic New York City"? There's the one sex worker named "Cookie". It makes sense that PMC class character would make even Jewish people hate their black neighbors as much as white nazis in suburbs...that actually explains a lot about Hannah Arendt's contempt for eastern European Jews in her holocaust revisionist journo propaganda lol

  • jabrd [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    PMC is an incoherent pseudo-class because its parameters are poorly defined. People will use PMC to refer to pedophile academics and then turn around and use it to refer to people with communications degrees and blue hair because they’re mad at a post they saw on twitter (you fucking losers). Operationalize your terms and get back to me when you can do basic statistical analysis. It was already a shit analytical tool when Ehrenreich created it and it’s only devolved in popular usage since. Like at best you could use PMC as a blanket term for a coalition of similarly oriented class interests but there’s a massive gap between the petty-boug, the credentialed professional class(?), and corporate managers let alone where a pseudo-feudal group like academia fits in

    • aaro [they/them, she/her]
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      1 year ago

      There's a decent argument I heard in a book called How Capitalism Ends that makes a solid argument for the recognition of the Technocracy (and kind of the PMCs for similar reasons) as a separate class from both the bourgeoisie and the proletariat in recent times, here's the excerpt:

      It’s important to note that the technocracy are not excluded from the proletariat because they earn too much money, or because they enjoy a large degree of autonomy in their work. It is the effective (though incomplete) control they exercise over productive assets by virtue of their technical knowledge that separates them from the proletariat. They make largely autonomous decisions about how and where productive assets will be deployed, and the expert knowledge which gives them the ability to do so puts them in a different relationship to both the means of production and to the bourgeoisie than that of the proletarian. At the same time, they do not enjoy the full range of ownership rights over the assets they control – they cannot sell or bequeath them for example. This limitation sets them apart from the petty-bourgeoisie.

      Most of these traits are shared by the PMC as well

      The book's decent but it's fairly anti AES (although it only comes up like twice in the whole book and for less than a couple sentences each time) and a little bit trot so tread carefully. Very good for getting new lefties on board with the economics of Marxism without having to have them buy into China good immediately.

      • jabrd [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I think this is a more functional analysis of what the PMC thesis is trying to get at but I would say it doesn’t cleanly map to a Marxist class definition and instead fits more cleanly with the ‘elites’ school of class analysis that posits a strata at the top of the classes that guide and lead them. These elites hoard wealth but also skills (like in your excerpt) and influence. The labor aristocrat thesis fits in with this as well wherein you have highly skilled proletariat who recognize their individual benefit from hoarding and then carteling their skill set away from other workers (trade unions bad actually). This hoarding behavior is also super prevalent in bureaucracies where chokepoints of expertise develop and allow individuals power beyond their station. I could see why the author would be critical of China or really any existing-socialist state as they’re very prone to this skill trap (see: late USSR).

        My issue with the PMC thesis is that it’s underdeveloped, not that it’s completely off base

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      I have recently seen someone refer to Starbucks Barista's as PMC so I think at this point the term has lost whatever explanatory power it had to explain the actions of the Transitional Stratas of professional and lanyard groups in the labour aristocracy or lower PB.

      • Orcocracy [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        This internet web forum has poisoned my brain so much that I thought the "PB" at the end of your post stood for "poop balls".

    • Deadend [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I consider PMC to mean Proles who think they are capitalists because they don’t see themselves as a true worker.

      They don’t get that THEY DO NOT OWN AND CONTROL THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION.

      • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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        1 year ago

        So it's just false consciousness? It doesn't describe a material relationship to the means of production? Because a whole lot of professionals and managers do see themselves as workers, especially in the United States where everyone with any job title considers themself working class.

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    not sure if you got the memo but right now PMC means private military contractor due to all the news masturbation over the weekend

    • jabrd [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Every time they get banned they lose a little bit of their posting power. The posts get shorter and shorter and I feel less and less confused but in like a bad way. Let my boy post!

      • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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        1 year ago

        A funny possibility: Each time BMF gets banned, they never actually return. All of the neoBMFs have been other posters who have been possessed by the spirit of the blackkk mold maoism.

        Also this isn't actually BMF, it's just someone posting as a language learning aid to track their progress in Maoist Standard English. You can tell they aren't a native speaker due to the lack of random allcaps words and the presence of additional places "KKK" could have been used, but weren't. Come on, gimme a "New YorKKK City"

        • jabrd [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          It’s a language modeling bot based on Maoist twitter slowly losing itself to entropy as it recursively works of its own posts. Honestly you’ve sold me on it. It’s genius

      • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I dread the day that BMF becomes one of the most coherent, eloquent people to ever live.

  • Dolores [love/loves]
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    1 year ago

    ah yes 'no one' can explain why the intelligentsia receives money from & hangs around the bourgeoisie, we had no semantic capacity to communicate about academia's relationship to philanthropic bourgeois culture before 'PMC' was invented.

    you're such a bold groundbreaking truth-sayer for your determination to beat buzzwords like a dead horse ortega-clap

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    My gut feeling is that instead of swinging politically based on economic needs they swing politically based on self-actualisation. The ones chasing prestige in society (journos being the most obvious) swing bougie while the ones chasing other forms of self-actualisation through things like art swing left.

    They're workers except their work is comfortable and well paid enough for their economic needs to be mostly met. So different issues end up taking the forefront in their decisions. If they don't have aspirations to become boug then self actualisation and other needs take the forefront.

  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Chomsky isn't fucking PMC. I hate his guts but the M stands for "managerial".

  • UlyssesT
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    18 days ago

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  • tuga [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I have no idea what this post is but you can critique the PMC thesis, it's not a perfect category