It rocks.
I would not say it's better than Frieren, it's not trying to be a cozy show like Frieren is. Also Frieren has a very specific political message that it is totally focused on whereas Dungeon Meshi is doing DnD in a way that is better than anything else that has ever come before.
It is a DnD show that baits you with being about cooking food but actually it's a pretty seriously well written DnD story. Go in with that in mind.
Can you elaborate a bit (or just point me in a direction) about Frieren having a very specific political message? I really enjoyed the first anime series of it, and I don't think I could succinctly describe its political messaging. Would love to hear your thoughts on it.
Frieren's message is about slowing down and enjoying what's around you for what it is, because there's really not much time, enjoy the small stuff more and the people you have.
Its secondary message is about the passing of information from one generation to the next, about the connection between people that forms memory and about how everything we do now is built on the work of everyone before us.
It has these messages going on and it is very consistent about delivering them. Dungeon Meshi on the other hand is not really delivering any consistent message other than "food good".
I kind of thought you were referring to Frieren having the power to do good but not doing anything about it for a long time
I don't think anyone should fault Frieren for not going and potentially dying sooner. Or the fact that she kinda felt bad about leaving it so long and wasn't sure if she should or not anymore because it had been left a while.
edit: to be fair I haven't even finished it, I'm at the point with the demons in the city
I mean. This is like saying anyone should go and fight in a war where they may or may not contribute to winning it and survive. It's even quite pointed out by her teacher that the way she was going about things she was going to get herself killed.
She spent a thousand years training for it. She really has no idea how much time she needed to train for it or how much power she actually required. She's also lost to others in that time, there are people that can beat her in a fight. She's not some special chosen one, just a person with a grudge who trained a very long time with the skills specifically necessary for this one task without really knowing how much was needed. I don't think Frieren is afraid of death, or even injury, she seems very much to enjoy battle in a way that seems a little bloodthirsty to be honest, but I don't think she really ever knew whether she was enough to win or not.
oh ok, i don't think i missed that really then. i just didn't conceptualize it as political directly (although obviously the political implications are there, especially the historical development of the world). thanks!
It's political in the sense that it's criticising how we live and saying that this is a better way to live. It doesn't need to show our way of life to be criticising, showing another better way of life with high fulfillment for its characters does the job just as well.
Extremely good. "Better than Frieren" is going to come down to taste, but I'd agree. It's not better than the high points of the first ~6 episodes, but it is better than the rest of the series. Worth noting that the second season has been announced which should probably finish the adaptation, which is soooooooooooo rare these days. Watch it!
Dungeon Meshi is good because it's Dune for DnD nerds.
You go in expecting a light-hearted fantasy cooking show and then it slams you with a masterclasss in worldbuilding, and soon you're knee deep in ecology, politics and culture; and thinking about how all these things intersect and affect each other. It's catnip for communists.
I like it better than Frieren just because it's a more coherent/focused story- Frieren can get a bit monster-of-the-week/shonen tournament arc at times, which I guess some people would consider a strength in its variety but that's kinda not for me. (Also I have some qualms with the way the demons are portrayed in Frieren).
I got to the kelpie episode the other day and kinda lost interest. Does it get more plot involvement or does it continue to be serials of monster dishes?
It gets much more plot. The "it's dinner in a dungeon" is bait for what slowly develops into a really serious DnD story. It also goes pretty heavy places.
What I like about the eating focus is that it gives you a real sense of time passing throughout the show, you can feel the routine of the party because you know what time occurs between meals in real life so it gives a really strong connection to time.
The manga is probably my favorite completed manga ever, and the anime adaptation is very good, even if it does suffer from modern adaptationitis. Don't listen to what people are saying about it online though, a lot of it is goofy nonsense.
I’m not gonna watch it, but the first like 80 issues are killer. I didn’t like the ending.
I think both Dungeon Meshi and Frieren are good, but if they didn't come out at the same time no one would compare the two. They're doing totally different things. I enjoy Meshi, but I've also enjoyed a number of cooking anime over the years. So I find the whole thing amusing as a cooking anime and am curious to see how it resolves as a decent story.
The manga is good up until about volume 10 or so after which point it nosedives hard in a way that retroactively ruins a lot of the cool dungeon ecology stuff from the earlier parts. The anime, or at least what I've seen of it so far, is a faithful 1:1 adaptation of the manga - it's impressive in that it's a good adaptation, but kind of disappointing in quality compared to Studio Trigger's own original series like Kill la Kill, BNA, or Edgerunners.
DONT JUST UPBEAR ! Tell me what you think ..pwease ?
I don't know anything about it, but my gut tells me no. Hope that helps!
Go slam through the comic. It'll take you like a week at most because it's good and hard to put down.
Haven't seen the anime - got too much random old stuff I want to watch instead.
, anime is pretty good too
