https://old.reddit.com/r/TrueAnon/comments/150rwur/the_comment_section_of_the_new_york_post_article/
That's called a vow of poverty. Nobody but the Catholics ever did it.
And despite the name, it's not "poverty" as in poor. It's the older meaning of poverty, having enough to live and giving away the rest. Because spiritual people don't (or shouldn't) care about material things. They chain you to the earth, etc.
Asking socialists to take vows of poverty is dumb.
Plenty of socialists in the third world have done similar. Including Thomas Sankara. Reduced his salary to a couple hundred US dollars a month and gave away all government excesses and forbid them. It's about showing solidarity with the working class.
I'm pretty sure there is a middle ground between a "vow of poverty" and earning millions of US dollars a year for talking shit into a microphone for weirdos on the internet.
I think the 1.2m number is the total for the pod, and there's two other people working there. Assuming that they split it three ways that's obviously still a lot of money for each of them, but we also have no idea what they're doing with it. For all we know they could be giving most of it away.
I was mainly responding to the idea that "a vow of poverty" is something only Catholics do and and has no place in socialism. Which is just factually untrue. Even the previous president of Uruguay let refugees live in the official government accommodation and drove a VW Beetle. Socialist movements should definitely focus on curbing party and/or government excesses, and avoid champagne socialist behaviour. Especially in the third world/Global South. It is a very poor look for a "socialist party" to show up to parliament with fancy watches and Gucci bags, while they dress to look like workers. There has to be some kind of middle ground somewhere.
I don't know what the trueanon podcast does with their money, I don't really care, but there is a point to practicing what you preach.
I assume some portion of it goes to guests they have on? Depending on how they structure their business (and all podcasts are businesses) they might be getting something less than that 1.2 mil (though on any scale, an absolute shitload of money).
It costs a shocking and frightening amount of money to have a secure retirement in the US. If you're planning to live to 80 with any kind of financial stability you need high, stable income for decades and careful saving. 400k - expenses is real good, but they've only been doing it for a couple of years and it probably won't last. Once you hit 65, if you're not disabled before that, you've got to cover all your expenses for 15 years with savings while medical, housing, and food costs continue to go up with no end in sight.
Most people will never be able to retire, but even people who do have a chance need to put away a great deal of money to have a chance of staying solvent until they die.
I don't think most people even think about retirement these days, it's an idea from an older world, but if you're going to try for it it's very costly.
I don't even believe the story that they weren't in the black. Personally, I believe that they weren't in the black as much as compared to other Sapporo plants, and there was probably not as muh growth potential for the brand that wouldn't directly compete with their other brands, being only a San Fran brand. That alongside with bad publicity from the unionization campaign is why they cut it.
You are exactly right. During a strike I got to meet a brewer regularly and it is kinda hard to not to find a niche to sell to, and consequently pay your workers good wages. At least within the imperial core.
i remember reading that communist/socialist politicians in the 3rd world did vows to cut their wage to only a standard wage or the normal wage of for example a teacher, in solidary wth the workers and donating the rest to union funds, labour struggles or to their party.
im pretty sure the trots in argentina do it to name a few
of course belden is not a congressman, but im mostly mentioning it because i think the dude in the screenshot maybe got the idea from this
also did it. He only owned a car, guitar and fridge if I remember correctly. And gave away the government fleet of executive cars.Full-time politicians from the Danish Red-Greens pays anything they get above the salary of a metal worker as a party tax to fund the party.
I mean he deffintely should be buying guns and ammo and training for a communist militia
Well I think content creators will be the secret to our success 😤
Leftist destroying other leftist for feel good internet points time
This is the New York POST, which is basically a pro-trump tabloid
Oh lmao I thought this was the NYT comments section, which is basically just reddit now
It's owned by Rupert Murdoch (fox news), so it's not so much "pro trump" but whatever the Murdoch family wants the current narrative to be.
The NYT comments section can get surprisingly DSA-tastic at times but I sincerely doubt this person is a leftist.
I have no idea. But yeah 1.2 mil for one person is alot. There is three of them. And than you have self employment taxes and other taxes. It's probably only a couple hundred grand a year per person.
Gross literally means nothing. I know bakers that gross 500k a year and after costs are only taking home 50k salary.
Oh it's basically just reddit now. On NYT comments. But also I was wrong it's the New York Post comments.
As far as the argument you have with the NYP comment, I'd rather you take that up with the people in this thread presenting better arguments. I consider it none of my business. :3
Cool, can we do that to all the execs at the company that shut down the brewery too?
Labour is entitled to all it creates. The surplus value Brace generates is $1.2m and it's split between the workers. If he's wildly successful from that, good. He directly generates that much value and should get his fair share of it. His obligation to society is paying taxes. I want worker co-ops to be successful and uplift everyone in the production chain while limiting their ability to turn that reward into structural power. Treats just stimulate other parts of the economy while investment/inheritance are both parasitic unless highly regulated.
He makes that much money from doing a podcast which is one of the least exploitative ways of making money. It's not like he's running a business with employees below him unless you count the restaurants he owns as The Gourmand, or his ranches as The Dark Cowboy.
A lot of that money goes to Dr. Rachel Jake's med school debt
production equipment 10k usd
wages 50k
travel expenses 5k
monthly donations to Shen Yun 1.2 million
please can someone help m,e budget my podcast, yung chomskjy hasnt eaten in weeks
There's honestly a discussion about unionism in the imperial core that could be included here but ehhhhh it's 4am
Giving away money one actually earned may be nice, but it's not socialism.
The point of unions is to get employers to pay workers commensurate to the value they produce, not to have workers pay each other out of their own pockets.
From each according to their own abilities to each according to their own needs. Does a podcast needs $1.2M/yr in order to stay afloat?
Minus whatever expenses the pod has, minus taxes if they pay business taxes, split three ways, minus all their personal taxes, and I think they live in high cost of living cities. It's the gross v net thing. They're probably doing pretty okay, but it's like upper middle income okay, not cocaine dusted donuts every day okay. And afaik they're not exploiting anyone's labor, regardless of how much the pod pulls in. Maybe some of the people who run patreon?
We get in to this "are artisans, craftsmen, and other self-employed people with no employees workers or bourgeisie" thing every few months.
That's still $400k/yr gross per person. A podcast doesn't have the same expenses like a major Breadtube channel (eg Contrapoints). At least for Contrapoint's case, she has actual staff (researcher, costume designer) to pay plus the expenses associated with her costume plus (most likely) a warehouse lease to store her costume and props. She at least has to drive around in order to shoot footage because she's mostly likely not living within walking distance from her stored costumes, so there's also gas that you could add to as expenses. A podcast has almost negligible yearly expenses. Unless you think Patreon gets a cut of like 60%, how much is each individual's net income after their negligible expenses and taxes? $300k/yr? $250k/yr? $200k/yr?
We get in to this "are artisans, craftsmen, and other self-employed people with no employees workers or bourgeisie" thing every few months.
It has nothing to do with their class background and more to do with being against hoarding and hoarders. That's how the Marx's quote is applicable in capitalist society. Some prole who won a lottery ticket and suddenly sees $100M added to their bank account should be condemned as a hoarder if they don't redistribute part of that $100M among their family, friends, and charity. This is regardless of whether the prole is not a socialist or how much they were previously exploited. When that $100M check clears, redistribution needs to happen. Of course, living in a capitalist hellhole molds you to act like an individualist, to spit in the face of every person who has supported you up to that point and to believe every single person including people who were supporting you up to that point is some con artist or scammer. Part of acting like an individualist is to believe your earnings belong to you only. This also bleeds into socialists when they start saying things like, "Workers are fully entitled to the fruits of their labor." This is untrue. It's people who need them the most that are first entitled to the fruits of worker's labor.
Yeah, not to mention that if one talks a big game about solidarity and the power of a union during the good times and the wins, they had better show up when the inevitable corporate ratfuckery comes around.
It's not his fault they Sapporo went nuclear, but all that solidarity talk then should oblige him to some material support for the affected workers, and definite signal boosting of any efforts to turn it into a worker co-op.
This holier than thou posting makes me feel absolutely certain you’re eating nothing but rice and multivitamin gummies so as to direct as much of your cash to the starving Tigray in Ethiopia.
$5 a day and you’re living in luxury compared to them so I’m sure you’re living in less than that.
they could be petty bourgeois or professional managers, in a word.
