• PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    AI generates the weirdest fucking opinions in people.

    Weird ass Luddite type of rage boils underneath the discussions involving AI. Honestly perplexing to me why that is.

    It’s a computer tool. Not a literal intelligence.

    brainworms

    • Goblinmancer [any]
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      1 year ago

      "AI" a really good marketing term for an algorithim, made people think the AI is a a literal sentient program.

        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          it's more a making things up machine that was built with plagerism.

          It's not good at plagerism because everything it makes is shitty

          • Smeagolicious [they/them]
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            1 year ago

            No but you see it doesn’t plagiarize since it analyzes general trends (from human art and writing scanned and used without permission) and since it’s not directly piecing sentences or visual art together like scavenged puzzle pieces then you clearly cannot be offended very-intelligent

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              I wouldn't worry about it tbh this is what spending half a billion dollars on making a LLM gets you and it's both shit and unprofitable

              I don't imagine 1 billion dollars gets you much more data than 0.5 does and would assume that the returns diminish drastically. And as training data is the real bottleneck in machine learning production I think chatGPT actually demonstrates that LLM's are an infeasible proposition

    • crispy_lol [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I think the rage is directed at the morons who actually think chatgpt is the answer to everything, they’re loud and annoying

      “Have you tried asking chatgpt?”

      • anaesidemus [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        i was kinda hoping it could replace Google, but you'd need communism first I guess.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        The "humans are just meat chatbots anyway" bazingas were worse than any so-called "Luddite" that didn't like losing their job to a slop printer.

    • Vingst [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      People don't want to lose their livelihood to automation. The Luddites were perfectly rational.

      • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Fearing productive technological advancement is irrational because the fear is misdirected.

        The source of the pain is the economic/social system. No one would fear automation in a socialist system - it would be a benefit to all.

        This is like hating the Sun because your neighbor beats you when it rises every day. You really should be hating your neighbor.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          A slave (while currently suffering on the plantation) should not irrationally resent the plantation because under better management (that isn't there and isn't coming anytime soon) the plantation would be a nice place. morshupls

          Same deal with the whip, really. morshupls

          • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Wouldn’t it make more sense to resent the Slaveowners?

            Focus your hate on the people actually oppressing you rather than some symbolic thing entirely meant to shield that slave owner.

            stalin

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Wouldn’t it make more sense to resent the Slaveowners?

              You missed my point.

              You're standing over people suffering right now from bad conditions now and condescending to them because a theoretical nonexistent in the present better version of those conditions would hurt them less. You even waved around the "rational" word.

              A whip is just a tool, but if you were someone in the late 1800s and you met an emancipated former slave and told them that actually the whip was just a tool and being haunted by those whip scars and the thought of whips is irrational, you would not get a good reception.

              • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                We’re talking about Chat GPT and AI

                No one is being whipped here

                No one is suffering in the fields

                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  No one is being whipped here

                  No one is suffering

                  No one lost their jobs, no one was pushed further into precarity, poverty, or outright homelessness, your rational blanket statement claims? what-the-hell

                  You may have found your way here from out of reddit-logo but apparently the reddit-logo hasn't found its way out of you.

                    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                      1 year ago

                      Yes, because they both involve people like you condescending to others for being "irrational" toward tools that can and have hurt them under conditions that do make them suffer.

                      Your "no one is suffering" blanket statement that ignores everyone that already got fucked over by chatbot-related technology shows how "rational" your argument really is. You're just stanning for the technology and looking down on people getting hurt by it.

                      Why are you even here? This is supposed to be a leftist site that supports workers, not condescends to them to stan for bazinga tech that could be nicer under a system that isn't here.

                        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                          1 year ago

                          That’s not what I support so you’re just wrong.

                          No one is suffering

                          Stop lying directly to my face.

                            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                              1 year ago

                              You wear that emoji well, you techbro-apologist clown.

                              • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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                                1 year ago

                                Take a chill pill and stop extrapolating an out of context statement to peoples entire world view

                                Like, you’re just wrong about what I believe I can’t really say anything other than that because it’s a frivolous shouting match

                                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                                  1 year ago

                                  stop extrapolating an out of context statement

                                  No one is suffering

                                  You're either laughably privileged or a liar after making the claim that no one has been hurt by chatbot technology.

                                  How am I even supposed to respond to that?

                                  RETVRN to reddit-logo , where being "rational" and smug and condescending about how actually in a theoretically nicer society technology that hurts people wouldn't hurt people would be better received, and bask in karma and gold and praise for your rationality there.

                                  • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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                                    1 year ago

                                    I never claimed that and I am saying again that’s not the case. I realized I worded that wrongly and edited it…

                                    AI in its current form is CRAZY exploitative and fucks over working class people. The masters that hold those tools should be butchered for their exploitative ways

                                    Like, dude, there is nothing I can do but say I wrote the wrong thing.

                                    My world view is not represented by a typo. You’re trying to harangue me for something I honestly don’t believe.

                                        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                                          1 year ago

                                          You left out “in the fields”

                                          I wonder why

                                          Because that's bullshit goalpost moving that you edited in after the fact. Does suffering only come from the fields?

                                          Your worldview is trying so very hard to be "technically correct" and condescend to people that are supposed to be comrades because they weren't Rational(tm) enough for your liking after getting fucked over by tools used by the ruling class in the present system, right now.

                                          • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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                                            1 year ago

                                            AI is exploitative in its current form. Full stop. It should be destroyed and the creators killed.

                                            After the Revolution, the tech would be nice to have.

                                            This is what my position is.

                                            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                                              1 year ago

                                              That's nice.

                                              Your "chill pill" and "my dude" and "I wonder why" smarmy talk certainly didn't make that clear, especially after your position was some "technically correct" bullshit that may thrive on reddit-logo but does the opposite of rallying people who feel rightfully hurt about being screwed by the present economic system. Telling them they are technically wrong about what they are angry about is just counterproductive pedantic bullshit.

                                              EDIT:

                                              and the creators killed.

                                              Why? The people who actually coded the things and got them started weren't billionaire assholes. They were workers, exploited, undervalued, underappreciated, and outright forgotten compared to the assholes that own the technology and command its use.

                                              • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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                                                1 year ago

                                                I only used that tone with you. because you’ve been an ass.

                                                Creators refers to the capitalist owners.

                                                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                                                  1 year ago

                                                  I only used that tone with you. because you’ve been an ass.

                                                  Mirror. Find one.

                                                  Creators refers to the capitalist owners.

                                                  All that pretense of rationality and you credit the owning class with creating the technology? what-the-hell

    • stigsbandit34z [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Luddite rage is extremely valid, especially considering the fact that the root of it is never shared. Reality invented once again big-cool