It's amazing. It's such a fantastic system, and they manage it with so little funding comparatively. After seeing how bad it is in America, and also how good it was in the UK at the time the documentary came out, all I could think of was what's to come.

Capitalists want nothing more than the end of Cuba, and it's miraculous socialist healthcare, and the UK is quickly eroding away at the NHS. I seriously may have to consider learning Spanish and getting out of here if this place keeps getting worse and worse.

Seeing the happiness on the faces of these Americans being treated in Cuba for pennies, the gentle way the doctors acted towards these people as humans rather than as meatbags of profit.

I'm not an emotional guy, but it really nearly had me for a second. What a fucking stupid world.

  • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    also the fact that US embargos make it really expensive to get complex high end medical equipment in cuba as it has to be shipped from China really shows Cuban perseverance in the face of outright malicious opposition. Like really we're embargoing the cancer treatment of Cuban children wtf guys

  • Iraglassceiling [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    I was thinking about watching Bowling For Columbine the other day to see how it aged, but I’m afraid I will emerge on the other side wearing a red velvet suit and permanent clown face paint.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      1 year ago

      It's mostly Moore jumping from NRA headquarters to Walmart to Clint Eastwood's house, waving a bloody shirt and telling them to stop killing children.

      Its very Lib Brained, tbh. Not what I'd call radicalizing. You can see his style aped by a lot of modern right wing click bait journalists, today.

    • Judge_Juche [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      I've been meaning to rewatch Fahrenheit 9/11, it's been so long that all I remember about the movie was everyone in our lib-ass neighborhood saying it was the silver bullet that was going to end Bush.

      • trabpukcip [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        In the community I grew up in, saying his name in anything other than an explicitly derogatory way was verboten

        • WIIHAPPYFEW [he/him, they/them]
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          1 year ago

          He committed the two worst sins of the miasma of 00s American culture: being a PiNkO and being fat (which probably at least doubled the hate people had for him)

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      We really need a smarty-pants leftist to go back and examine Columbine, the shooters being neo-nazis, the general zeitgeist of late 90's neoliberalism, and how it all ties in together today with this boater style fascism we got going on today. Too many people miss the forest through the trees on just saying it was guns and blaming the NRA.

      • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
        hexagon
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        1 year ago

        I'd actually like to hear if anyone here has some takes or pointers on that, cos it's a pretty interesting concept.

        Come on my hexbears, I want to see some attempts, however misguided or lizard brained.

        • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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          1 year ago

          I'm not like Matt and smart enough to tie all this together but there's something there and it's most likely due to neoliberalism.

          • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
            hexagon
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            1 year ago

            ah but riddle me this

            hypothetically, if you were as smart as Matt.. what would you say?

            • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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              1 year ago

              I think the through line is that neoliberal capitalism has eroded everything to such a point where people flip to violent fascist outbursts. Worth pointing out that the fascism is coming from wealthy bored suburbanites like those that did Columbine.

  • pooh [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Moore seems like he’s functionally a lib, though there are some things in his movies (especially in Capitalism: A Love Story) that make me wonder if he’s more left than he lets on. In general, though, he’s amazing at creating emotionally impactful propaganda and I feel like it’s not the worst idea for people on the left to look to his work for inspiration in terms of how to frame a particular message to influence the widest possible audience.

    (edit: clarity)

    • FuckYourselfEndless [ze/hir]
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      1 year ago

      He's got brain worms and is a radlib (kinda' in that Oliver Stone way) but he's been a force for good as far as I can tell.

    • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, I think definitely worth engaging with Moore's work. Reading and watching 'lib' content like Chomsky and Moore is good for knowing how to convince libs to listen to you.

  • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    There is also that other movie where he goes to Sweden or something and that didn't work out much better either in the grand scheme.

    • ButtBidet [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I fee like he's 1 billion times better than most people of his generation and industry people who produce films. Oh totally, he's right of like everyone on Hexbear, but I can't hate the guy.

    • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I listened to his podcast at the beginning of the pandemic and it sounded like he was starting to finally radicalize but alas

      • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Yeah, it's a pity.

        He literally called Haz one of the greatest "Marxist thinkers" (Haz doesn't think) currently.

        • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]
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          1 year ago

          He literally called Haz one of the greatest "Marxist thinkers"

          Could we get a source on this? Lets get Micheal Moore on the record for supporting a National Socialist (Nazi)

        • heartheartbreak [fae/faer]
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          1 year ago

          Are you just vaguely making up bullshit around people being associated with haz lately lmfao

        • M68040 [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          I would rather just become a conservative than hear that guy out on literally anything. Not taking the long way around on adopting a bunch of right wing garbage when I could just cut to the chase

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      1 year ago

      He's an electoralist who drank the maybe-later-kiddo Kool Aid.

      His policy is good. His politics is underwhelming.