• ImOnADiet
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    11 months ago

    why is this posted in doomer?

    • goatmeal [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      11 months ago

      World War 3. Another proxy war against Russia. The Niger coup was pro-Russian

      • ImOnADiet
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        11 months ago

        I seriously doubt the US would outright spend the resources to go to war with Niger right now, they 100% want to keep their eyes on China rn, the window for any kind of military conflict with them is closing, they’ll just try and do the ole classic coup

            • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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              11 months ago

              Same thing that kept them out of Iran for the last 20 years. Fucking around in Afghanistan and Iraq tapped them out. Now fucking around in Ukraine is tapping them out even further.

              Americans don't have unlimited resources and wars are enormously expensive. We literally don't have the juice for multiple continents worth of proxy fights that drag on indefinitely. We've hit our limit.

              • goatmeal [none/use name]
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                11 months ago

                They US tried to do a coup in Iran on Achmedenijad in 2009 dubbed the Green Revolution.

                Edit: I have suspicions about the burning hijab protests too. The Ayatollah blamed the protests on Israel and the US. It's possible but the Ayatollah is a repressive piece of shit.

                • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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                  11 months ago

                  Sure. But not an invasion. They were hoping Iranians would do all the heavy lifting.

                  Incidentally, we're not sending much manpower into Ukrainian either. They're expected to do all their own killing and dying, while we just toss them more ammo.

                  • goatmeal [none/use name]
                    hexagon
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                    11 months ago

                    Yeah ans Zelensky already said the country would be sold to JPMorgan and Blackrock

        • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          They've specifically gone out of their way not to condemn it in fact, as it suits their interests on squeezing the EU on energy dependence.

          • ImOnADiet
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            11 months ago

            useful, glad the imperialist bloc is continuing to fall apart and eat itself then. Guess the rest of Europe is really gonna see what we did to Japan in the 80's first hand lol

            • Sinister [none/use name, comrade/them]B
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              11 months ago

              the "80s in Japan thing" also happened to Europe. It was basically the US going to its "allies" and begging them to destroy their own economy.

              • ImOnADiet
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                11 months ago

                I thought it was way way worse in Japan, legitimately ruined their economy to this day

                • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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                  11 months ago

                  It was indeed far worse in Japan. Japan's economy isn't ruined per say, but the whole country feels like it's just getting by rather than thriving. The 90s recession was brutal and they never truly recovered.

            • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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              11 months ago

              Yeah, we'll see how long it lasts, but the coup has bought itself some time by stopping uranium to France.

            • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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              11 months ago

              That's not a sign of collapsing, this was always the plan, to subjugate Europe. Leftist economists have been predicting this (the US destroying Europe) since the late 90s and early 2000s. Got to win the inter imperial war first, before moving onto the next front (likely China).

            • Rogerio [he/him]
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              11 months ago

              Is there anything you suggest I read on what US did to Japan?

              • ImOnADiet
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                11 months ago

                I only know anything about it because of hog groomer on twitter,

                Part 1: https://nitter.net/bidetmarxman/status/1564267348017938434

                Part 2: https://nitter.net/bidetmarxman/status/1564268574075940870


                if you'd prefer the threadreader thing, idk how its privacy is tho:

                Part 1: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1564267348017938434.html

                Part 2: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1564268574075940870.html

        • goatmeal [none/use name]
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          11 months ago

          I think you're correct but maybe not. The neocons who run the country are as stupid as they are sociopathic. They'd rather die than live in a world of multipolarity. They've been taking military L after L for a decade and their strategy is to double down every time.

          Edit: They also don't just go to war. They fund some shadowy terrorist group to do their bidding, like the contra equivalent.. They attempted a coup in Venezuela in 2019.

          • ImOnADiet
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            11 months ago

            They attempted a coup in Venezuela in 2019.

            Yeah that got caught by fucking fisherman lmao

            • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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              11 months ago

              Nah that's a different one. I think the one they are talking about that had explicit U.S. backing was the Juan Guiado one.

              • ImOnADiet
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                11 months ago

                Ah true, i always think of the funny one first. Honestly even that attempt was kind of bizarre, does anyone have any reading I can do about that? From what I know didn’t the opposition just declare him president after accusing Maduro of election fraud, and then just insisted he was president for a couple years despite controlling literally 0 branches of government?

                • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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                  11 months ago

                  Well, if you follow journalists at telesur, which is the state-run media for all the socialist-aligned South and Latin American countries (so grain of salt, but I've found their reporting to be more accurate on average than any Western sources), basically the opposition decided to sit the election out in protest (because they haven't been winning), which lead them to lose even more.

                  From what I can tell, reading between the lines, the leader of this opposition Guiado then started to try to coordinate with people in the military to organize a coup. However, both the military and government forsaw this, and so basically gave him a dummy legion. Either that or they reached out first to goad him into it, either way very funny.

                  From there that section of protesting conservatives declared him president, and he attempted to storm the capital, but didnt make it very far when the entire battalion that had 'defected' basically just stopped in the middle of the highway rather than continuing on. There were some shots fired by army that wasn't in the know, but overall the entire thing was pretty pathetic. Guiado then proceeded to just wander around Venezuela, as they didn't even bother to arrest him, eventually traveling to the U.S. where they gave him (illegally) control of Venezuela's gold and foreign currency reserves, which is where he is now, even though because of that even the opposition conservatives have distanced themselves from him.

                  • ImOnADiet
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                    11 months ago

                    Right, like it seemed planned out extremely terribly compared to past coups in LATAM, but I don’t want to outright come out and say that because I haven’t actually done any reading on it

                    • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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                      11 months ago

                      While I think the U.S. government gave the go-ahead on it (as they immediately declared support for Guiado), I generally believe that their end of the bargain, which was shipping weapons in, was stymied by Venezuela refusing aid. There are a lot of guns already in Venezuela, it is a heavily armed country, but my guess is that they were trying to get the more explosive ordinance in.

                      It's one of those things that doesn't work because Venezuela has already seen most of the tricks in your book, so they aren't fooled anymore.

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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        11 months ago

        This should be in bloomer if anything. The beginning of the end of Francafrique doesn't belong in anywhere but bloomer.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        11 months ago

        The Niger coup was pro-Russianm

        Are you sure it wasn't just pro-Niger?

        • goatmeal [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          11 months ago

          Could be. Some demonstrators rushing the French embassy were waving Russian flags. Wagner Mercenaries pledged support and are active in anti-terror operations in CAR and Mali.

  • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    Why is this in doomer? lol this funny as fuck.

    looking below I see concerns over WW3, and all I can say is, under any circumstances of things getting better, the United States will threaten and warmonger because that's all this country can do anymore. Like, when unions succeed at something, do you go "oh this is just one step closer to the Pinkertons lynching union organizers in their homes again in retaliation." Because strictly speaking that's not even wrong, it's just the kind of attitude that amounts to "why ever do anything when the opponent can respond?"

    • goatmeal [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      11 months ago

      Trust me I'm not necessarily saying Russia will start WW3. There's some union of West African States that wants the coup govt to step down then Burkina Faso and Mali said they'd defend the coup govt. Sure it's tough talk and posturing now.

      NATO is engaged in a dangerous proxy war with a nuclear power and I don't want there to be a second proxy war going on at once. There was already a proxy war in Syria under Obama, but with all that's going on now it seems a lot of global chess moves are being made.

    • temptest [any]
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      11 months ago

      We must raid /c/doomer and steal away their sadness to starve ben sharpies tear extraction machines

  • wombat [none/use name]
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    11 months ago

    the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry

    • temptest [any]
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      11 months ago

      ok but how many US drone bases did they disable?

      checkmate, peasant