• lvysaur [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If you double the population, food gets more expensive

    source: food prices literally anywhere in the world that isn't a settler state that genocided a native population within the last 400 years

    also, climate change

    and the food quality is already going down to begin with, it's just not noticeable/drastic enough for people in the US to hate their lives yet. Virtually all your seafood is filled with plastic. Fuji apples started going downhill in 2011. I even found an article about it several years later to vindicate my suspicion https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/climate-change-is-altering-the-taste-and-texture-of-fuji-apples-44558/

    • qublic69 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      They were specifically talking about "skyrocketing food prices" due to "mass immigration from the global south rather than native births".
      Climate change is irrelevant here.

      The USA exports more food than any other country.
      These two maps from ourworldindata.org show poorer countries spend a higher percentage of income on food, but they also spend less on food.
      The groceries index also shows that food prices for equivalent items tends to be lower in poorer countries.

      If anything it is gentrification that drives up food prices locally. (although the global effect is much more complicated)
      These systems are not simply driven by supply/demand, it is more like they are driven by the supply of money in consumers wallets. If people are willing to pay more the prices go up.
      What else could one expect in a world that can easily feed its entire population, but decides not to when there is no profit to be made.

      The rising global food prices are mostly a sign of globalization, with rich countries driving up prices, such that poor countries are exporting food, often as high value density meat, instead of feeding their own people.

      At this point with Covid-19 it works somewhat differently; prices have gone up because suddenly less people are eating in restaurants.
      More people with plenty of money are instead buying their food online, effectively gentrifying those prices.
      But also there is a supply problem, since much of the food produced for industry cannot simply be sold in stores because packaging plants do not have adequate capacity.

      Food markets are globalized, increasing the total world population could increase food prices.
      But immigration into a food exporting country like the USA simply does not.

      Edit: more data showing people just spend more on food if they can afford it, and share of disposable income spent on food has gone down continuously in the USA for decades.