https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/man-gets-charmed-by-golden-retriever-before-stealing-a-bike-from-a-garage-in-pacific-beach-sdpd/3278781/
An alleged burglary took place on Diamond Street in Pacific Beach last month.
At 10:40 p.m. on July 15, a man allegedly stole a bicycle from a home's garage.
In the middle of the brazen theft, he stopped to share a moment with a dog.
“The guy enters the garage, grabs the bike and starts to walk out. He is about five feet outside the garage door, and a golden retriever comes outside, into the garage, and follows the guy out. He immediately comes back in, parks the bike and starts playing with the dog,” San Diego Police Department Lt. Brian Brecht said.
A video posted on social media by San Diego police shows the man, after playing with the dog for about a minute, leaving the property with the bike that is believed to be around $1,300.
“We are still looking for the subject. That’s why we advertised this on social media, but hopefully, we can get some tips from the public,” Brecht said.
My friend has a 100 pound Golden and he is the sweetest thing in the world, but would in no way be a guard dog.
I am not inclined to be upset about the theft of a luxury bike. Unless things have changed wildly and my intuition about numbers is off. If you can afford a nearly 2k bike you can afford to replace it.
$1300 isn't really a luxury price point, that's a pretty normal price for a new bike that's not an entry-level economy model. (And that's why I only buy my bikes used). If you look at historical prices accounting for inflation, it typically holds true that $1000 MSRP is the dividing line between cheap bikes and mid-range ones.
Are bikes just more expensive in the US? I paid never more than 400 for something that was pretty fancy and good to ride. Over 1k is basically exclusively luxury bikes or e-bikes. I have ridden to work and school in bikes my whole life.
How the fuck is that possible I bought my moped for less than that and that thing has a combustion engine in it
A lot of corners get cut on new bikes in the US, if you buy something in the sub $500 range your best bet is to go bare bones and low complexity (like a beach cruiser). Suspension, a ton of gears, etc. at the same price point will be very heavy and you'll be replacing parts constantly.
I bought a Walmart mountain bike for $400 last year to convert into an ebike and I've replaced the seat, brakes, freewheel, front wheel, both tires, and I'm now considering the rear shifter and derailleur. Bike of Theseus
I'm curious if the lower price point bikes end up pushing the midrange price point up. Like obviously they're intentionally using heavier materials for the lowest price point, just wondering if that ends up with a higher parts cost than is necessary. If there wasn't the motivation of designing tiers to upsell you, I'm guessing the lowest cost bikes could comfortably the midrange ones.
i mean ideally the number of groupsets, the changes year-to-year, and duplication of work between competitors could be reduced, making the line-up of components simpler and saving money that way. but there's not really any way around the fact that a high-quality frame costs more in materials and labour hours to make.
I'm guessing the lowest cost bikes could comfortably the midrange ones.
Yeah, absolutely, european big box sport store Decathlon will sell you a really solid bike for the price of a not so solid bike because they offer like 1 - 2 frames per category and then the rest is just better drivetrains or extra parts like fenders or a rack
Yeah, I paid something like that for my bike in 2012, and it was the cheapest model you could take off road without imploding lol
Accidentally deleted but like with a lot of things the price is location dependent for used bikes. Even ancient bikes from the 80s in good condition can sell for 400+
1,300 is not "nearly 2k". that rounding is doing a lot of work there my guy.
Tax, nice tires, replacement tubes and parts, a good helmet, A cute water bottle. I am thinking at the end of the day out the store you are probably taking a few hundred on there.
that's fair. I'm not a bike expert, just a person who like to round correctly.
Never thought I'd see a pro-bike theft post on Hexbear
If you can afford a nearly 2k bike you can afford to replace it.
Have you considered that people save up to buy things?
Also, in the context of the article, the $1300 bike is an ebike. $1300 is on the low-end for ebikes, it's definitely not a "luxury bike".
Why should I have any sympathy for some rich old white people living in a suburban house in a bougie part of San Francisco getting one of their dozen bikes burgled in a garage they clearly left open?
Bikes should be communal property anyways, cities should just leave them at street corners and let it be first come first serve, throw anyone in jail who uses a bike lock.
The existence of cars is a har greater hindrance to bike accessibility than bike locks
Bikes should be communal property anyways
this is literally bicycle-sharing systems, they're very popular and often better than using your private bike
Doesn't stop redditors from being redditors
The one time I would have loved to see a pit bull come out of nowhere...
Like it's just a bike, no need to wish someone gets mauled over it
If they got it for weekend riding sure. If they use that to commute that's a significant disruption
We really need to reign in our enthusiasm for stealing shit. It's (outdoor) catnip for opportunists and you wind up overthinking questions like "is $1300 the threshold for declaring someone a class enemy?"
Theft from the right people for the right reasons is worth defending, but it's something that's generally bad where there are sometimes excuses, not something that is generally good. Every society I'm aware of (certainly every modern society) views stealing as bad, they just define what one can legitimately own in different ways. Ordinary peolple are just not going to come around to "steal whatever for whatever reason, hell yeah," but you see that attitude pop up on the left somewhat frequently. It's not a good spot for scorching hot takes.
I dunno. I feel there is some utility in just denying the importance of stuff. Liberals are in the reddit are thread coming up with saw traps they would make for people that touch their stuff. No one that is healthy and well adjusted is gonna do this. Whatever is going on in the life of the bike theif is a bigger issue than the person that gets their stolen bike in the news. I had a bike stolen. It sucked. I never lived a life where stealing bikes seems like an important opportunity though. So I do gotta keep things in perspective.
Except we should always support the stealing from (insured anyway) businesses. I don’t really feel any concern if a rich person gets a small amount of their stuff (that they can easily replace anyway) stolen.
In your ideal leftist society, would stealing be legal? Of course not -- nor has it been legal in any AES state. Generally speaking, it's bad. The vast majority of people think so now and will continue to think so even if there's a significant leftward shift in society.
Our default response to stealing, then, shouldn't be "hell yeah." People don't like getting ripped off and stealing isn't socialism. It's fine to cheer stealing from the right people for the right reasons, but that's not everything.
This isn’t a socialist society. This bike isn’t being stolen in a socialist society that provides for them. This is stealing from a rich bastard in a capitalist society. Those are two totally different things. What AES states do isn’t relevant as this isn’t occurring in an AES state
It super does not look like a $1,300 bike allthough it seems to be a beach cruiser and I have no idea. Is that maybe a police estimate and they just have 0 clue or is "believed to be" a usual phrasing for this type of thing?
That kind of negative utilitarianism is what ethically compelled me to be an arsonist. It might make the homeowner unhappy, but it gives me so much pleasure that it's a net good for the world.
If you do it enough in the same area the house prices will fall as well!
It's making wildlife habitat too. They need that after all those wildfires I started.
People don't steal bikes because it benefits them, otherwise tons of nice bikes wouldn't end up ditched in the woods or rivers.
There's theft due to direct material conditions (gucci purses and whatever else you can sell to pay rent and feed yourself), then there's theft due to social conditions (the white board from school).
Some random guy's bike is more the latter.
I'm so down bad for good pups that I'd have led him back inside and closed the door before leaving with the bag. Plus it gives me the temporary alibi of "Sry bro i saw your dog was running around the area and it led me back here" until I got away (no bag scenario).
The only worthwhile dogs are pitbulls, border collies, and unpredictable mutts.
Golden retrievers are just uniquely physically incapable of being a bad boy.
Any cracker that can afford a $1,300 bike can afford reparations. I'm gonna assume he's not donating at all to the the needful in his community and say fuck him
Next time he saves money for a luxury good he shouldn't get something so fancy. If he has the privilege to be get something so nice it means he doesn't deserve it.
