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  • Monstera@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    Not vegan, mostly vegetarian.

    Reasons, cheese is just too good, egg can be ok sourced, bees can consent. I have a lot of gut issues and no-go foods, vegan foods not prepared at home will have some of my triggers, which include garlic (oh how I miss thee), so if I'm not flexible I'd only eat rice and beens at home

      • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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        5 months ago

        If bees don't like their living conditions they'll literally leave. People largely need to construct housing that makes them comfy. Poor Prole's Almanac does discuss the apiary industry and many entomologists and agriculturalists are arguing against the raising of honeybees, but it usually boils down to local pollinator competition and the industry of large trucks moving around hives and basically functioning as vorroa mite factories. The hobbyist beekeeper or subsistence farmer is not the one carrying out these sins, though.

      • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
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        5 months ago

        I've worked as a beekeeper so I feel like I can answer this. The bees are literally free to leave at any time, there's no way to stop them from packing up and finding a better place to live and they will do so if they feel the need to. If a hive is particularly successful and grows large enough they'll split and half the bees will leave to find a new place, and if you provide them with a hive most of the time they'll just stick around. They're perfectly able to survive and thrive outside of the bee-beekeeper relationship so the only thing keeping them there is their own preference

        • mathemachristian [he/him]
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          5 months ago

          How does that translate into them consenting to sharing their food? Honest question.

          • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
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            5 months ago

            Oh, they also over produce the amount of honey they need, and beekeepers supplement their food during spring/fall when flowers aren't in bloom. If they were going hungry or felt food insecure they would leave and search for greener pastures.

            I will say there is a spectrum of beekeepers with some being more ethical than others, I've heard stories of beekeepers a few decades ago that wouldn't bother wintering their bees and just started fresh with new bees each spring. So if you're after ethically sourced honey and beeswax I'd deal with a local beekeeper, someone you can get to know and ask about their beekeeping practices.

            So just to sum it up I'd say it's possible for beekeeping to be done ethically but I'd asses it on a case-by-case basis as some beekeepers are better than others

            Edit: just a disclaimer, I worked for a small to medium sized beekeeper that had stationary yards spread over a large chunk of country, not one of these large corporate setups with the mobile hive trucks. Also I haven't touched on the whole issue of them competing with native pollinators but that's because I don't really know about that side of things