• Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
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      5 months ago

      Liberal, to me, is anyone who supports any part of pro-capitalist ideology and goals, whether it be

      1. settler-colonialism/right-libertarianism (America's process to becoming such country)

      Also known originally, as propetarianism/classical-liberalism, a le John Locke and Adam Smith...

      1. neoliberalism/IMF structural adjustment of exploitative debt and cuts of social spending, privatization (post-cold war economic policy of capitalism, a l'Amerique, to expand capitalism,)

      2. pro-west regime-change NGOs, gulf-state-esque collaborators, and comprador nation-states (post-cold war foreign policy, to defend capitalist interests)

      Liberals change and flow, by their material conditions and situation... in fact, libs only occurred as a result of bourgeois (bourgeois now is a historical term to me) classes trying to justify themselves as a whole, as the new dominating system

      Eg. One liberal in rev. France may support beheading monarchies, while a whig lib or Kerenskyist lib in the U.K or Russia may support the Royalty itself

      • deathtoreddit

      That's how it is for me... that being said, you're probably gonna criticize me, are ye?

      • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
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        5 months ago

        No, I was honestly curious. People throw "lib" around so much I'm surprised it actually has a meaning. Thanks.

        • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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          5 months ago

          In leftist spaces, Lib has the above meaning. In conservative spaces, it's a slur for anyone to the left of Mussolini, including Communists, Socialists, and Anarchists.

        • aaro [they/them, she/her]
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          5 months ago

          forgive us for being a bit bristly at times, we're used to this interaction going one and only one way typically. welcome! enjoy your time here meow-hug

        • TC_209 [he/him, comrade/them]
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          5 months ago

          Thank you for asking questions in good faith; it's woefully uncommon and very appreciated.

          • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
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            5 months ago

            Not everything needs to be an argument online. Probably better if people realize 98% of discussion online is not zero sum.
            Enjoy the rest of your week!

    • TawnyFroggy [she/her]
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      5 months ago

      Well they literally called themselves libs so I guess I just trusted them.