• Ardipithecus [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      They feel they've lost the "culture war" because Nike is pro BLM and Target has rainbows. There's no real analysis for this, it's all vibes. The "facts over feelings" crowd, folks.

    • mathemachristian [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      I am honestly confused by what these people want.

      Slave labour. They already have concentration camps at the border, they want the cheapest labor they can get. They want to run the laborers as efficient as a dairy farm.

    • Dr_Gabriel_Aby [none/use name]
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      5 months ago

      From 1948 onward, the American right has attributed all politics that don’t go their way as communist. In their circles the New Deal, Desegregation, environmental regulation have been only seen as evil and communist. Propaganda points being preached for 75 years has an effect on people.

      After 75 years of slave state rule, plantation owners seriously believed that slavery was good, and that slaves would work the land out of joy, and that Europe cared so much about a single cash crop that no one could challenge their slave empire if the seceded. They seriously believed secession was smarter than just continually utilizing the constitution that was written in their favor.

      When people are talking crazy for their entire lifetime we ought to believe em.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      5 months ago

      The Heritage Foundation doesn't exist to promote corporate interests. They exist because Ivy League educated fancy boys needed a fake job to tell Coors it's ok to fire gay people. The entire thing was set up as a fake jobs program for the kids of wealthy DC residents and now 50 years later the Heritage Foundation is drunk on their own Kool aid. They think they have real jobs now

    • healthkick
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      5 months ago

      For much of human history you’ve had lords with almost all the wealth and a laboring class who exist roughly 3-6 months away from starvation.

    • quarrk [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      Class struggle is an ongoing process. There is no ceiling for greed and no floor for the conditions of the working class.

      The US is immensely profitable for the bourgeoisie, but there are still “difficulties” like OSHA, FMLA, anti-trust laws, etc which deviate from a perfectly exploitable society.

  • TawnyFroggy [she/her]
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    5 months ago

    I see a couple (Hopefully now former?!) libs saying they've been radicalized over this whole thing. Honestly now is a good time to try spread the good word of Karl Marx to the unenlightened.

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      5 months ago

      We should also take the opportunity to point out to the scared and radicalizing liberals that they are now fully in the same boat as us: "You heard the fascist, whatever your feelings are about anarchists and communists, the nazis don't know the difference. It's all The Demonic Left to them so congrats, you've been drafted to the good guys."

      • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
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        5 months ago

        Liberal, to me, is anyone who supports any part of pro-capitalist ideology and goals, whether it be

        1. settler-colonialism/right-libertarianism (America's process to becoming such country)

        Also known originally, as propetarianism/classical-liberalism, a le John Locke and Adam Smith...

        1. neoliberalism/IMF structural adjustment of exploitative debt and cuts of social spending, privatization (post-cold war economic policy of capitalism, a l'Amerique, to expand capitalism,)

        2. pro-west regime-change NGOs, gulf-state-esque collaborators, and comprador nation-states (post-cold war foreign policy, to defend capitalist interests)

        Liberals change and flow, by their material conditions and situation... in fact, libs only occurred as a result of bourgeois (bourgeois now is a historical term to me) classes trying to justify themselves as a whole, as the new dominating system

        Eg. One liberal in rev. France may support beheading monarchies, while a whig lib or Kerenskyist lib in the U.K or Russia may support the Royalty itself

        • deathtoreddit

        That's how it is for me... that being said, you're probably gonna criticize me, are ye?

        • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
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          5 months ago

          No, I was honestly curious. People throw "lib" around so much I'm surprised it actually has a meaning. Thanks.

          • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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            5 months ago

            In leftist spaces, Lib has the above meaning. In conservative spaces, it's a slur for anyone to the left of Mussolini, including Communists, Socialists, and Anarchists.

          • aaro [they/them, she/her]
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            5 months ago

            forgive us for being a bit bristly at times, we're used to this interaction going one and only one way typically. welcome! enjoy your time here meow-hug

          • TC_209 [he/him, comrade/them]
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            5 months ago

            Thank you for asking questions in good faith; it's woefully uncommon and very appreciated.

            • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
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              5 months ago

              Not everything needs to be an argument online. Probably better if people realize 98% of discussion online is not zero sum.
              Enjoy the rest of your week!

      • TawnyFroggy [she/her]
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        5 months ago

        Well they literally called themselves libs so I guess I just trusted them.

  • ComRed2 [any]
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    5 months ago

    if the left allows it to be

    No. No I don't think I will.

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    5 months ago

    Liberals simultaneously believe the American political system is pure and without fault, but also in the white house there's a big button labeled "turn into a fascist theocracy" and it works but no one is allowed to push it. And if you talk about dismantling the button then you're a tankie

    • Black_Mald_Futures [any]
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      5 months ago

      And if you talk about dismantling the button then you're a tankie

      The parliamentarian said you can't dismantle the fascism button

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    You know this person is 100% ghoul because they don't consider all the women who will die of forced birth complications when doing their blood calculations.

    • Tabitha ☢️[she/her]
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      5 months ago

      I bet he counts every woman on their period because they are not pregnant as as 2 bloods each tho

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      To conservatives, women and children are property, not people.

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    5 months ago

    These people always cry about how Central American immigrants will turn the US into a Central American country like Guatemala. But they would love the country to be like Guatemala. Anti-lgbt society, strong Protestant presence, women’s rights being heavily eroded, and the far-right being so powerful that they get away with everything.

  • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
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    5 months ago

    "The essence of liberalism is negotiation, a cautious half measure, in the hope that the definitive dispute, the decisive bloody battle, can be transformed into a parliamentary debate and permit the decision to be suspended forever in an everlasting discussion." - Carl Schmitt, Nazi jurist

  • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    Ah right, a right to violence for me, but not for thee. Classic.

  • M68040 [they/them]
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    5 months ago

    I want things to turn quite bloody, actually. Mostly theirs