New account but I've been using burner accounts and lurking since the sub got banned. I've been seeing all the standard liberal brainworms again for the first time since reddit-logo and everytime it's an account from another federation. I was tepidly against federation at first but this has been entertaining, like the old days of pigpoop people who wandered into the sub.

I gotta imagine this will only last another week before everyone defederates us, but let's enjoy it for now.

    • ZapataCadabra [he/him]
      hexagon
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      11 months ago

      Hahaha on my screen it's normal so God do I envy you. Here's another pigpoop

            • VHS [he/him]
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              11 months ago

              might be because a lot of the line-drawing emotes are SVG and will scale to any size, while photo-based emotes are PNGs and have a set resolution

                • Mindfury [he/him]
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                  11 months ago

                  yeah, that's gotta be the problem - I pointed out in a lemmygrad thread yesterday that hexbear had a similar problem in the first year or so of the site that specifically affected the hexbear logo emoji when it appeared in the site tagline (it became fucking massive, like 3000x3000)

                  our beautiful admins might have to rework svg/vector based emojis or even contribute something upstream to have unified resizing

                            • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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                              11 months ago

                              I was thinking earlier about how powerful it makes us that we can't see downvotes, like we could be in a thread getting -50 on every comment and just keep chugging away without a care. This makes it even better.

                              • Parsani [love/loves, comrade/them]
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                                11 months ago

                                Removing downvotes has been a blessing in several ways.

                                It also helps that like 20 people jump in with LIB and shit, so downvoting it all is annoying and time consuming for anyone who wants to.

                  • BoarAvoir [they/them]A
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                    11 months ago

                    Yes, you are on the right track.

                    What actually happened is, for the migration back to upstream lemmy, our devs developed and contributed the custom emoji feature, so that we could keep them, but since we were uploading them through the UI not baking them into the app when it was built as static assets, they had to go into pictrs (the image backend), which doesn't support SVGs yet. So as part of our migration we converted all SVG emotes back to PNG (apparently at a pretty substantial resolution).

                    They render correctly on our side because the UI recognizes that they are a local custom emoji and applies different CSS than we do for other embedded images, but as currently written, there is no simple way to differentiate a federated emoji from any other embedded image, so when federated, our emoji get rendered as just any image, at whatever size the file is. We will likely contribute a fix for this upstream, though resizing all of our emotes to a consistent size would also do the trick, and may be undertaken as a stopgap in the mean time.

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    11 months ago

    i mean this in the nicest way possible and I mean that it's charming

    a lot of these other instances feel like just kinda charming friendly middle aged people talking on Facebook. It's kind of whiplash because I've been so used to the owl piss and pig shit style of posting we've cultivated and these folk are just pleased as punch with their spongebob and tom&jerry memes

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      11 months ago

      Hmm. I hadn't actually considered why kind of mind would produce these things. But then I find people who aren't fatalistic and angry about the world deeply unnerving and I tend to forget they exist.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      spongebob and tom&jerry memes

      I'm down to clown with those too. I-was-saying

        • Yurt_Owl
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          11 months ago

          smoker-on-the-balcony poopoodoodoo? I haven't heard that name in years

        • JuneFall [none/use name]
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          11 months ago

          Oh no your choice of words is a nono, that is a ban for not being civil!

          Meanwhile: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dk7hFNfU0AAyO-p?format=jpg&name=large

          My fellow chap, I would feel most splendid if you might be so good as to genocide this group that I don't relate to currently. You are such a nice conversationalist.

          report denied, reporting user shadow banned. Such is life in the :liberalliberalism republic.

  • Othello [comrade/them, love/loves]
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    11 months ago

    i always see the threads talking about the dumb libs, before looking for them. the equivalent of hearing gunshots in the neighborhood. lmao.

    • ZapataCadabra [he/him]
      hexagon
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      11 months ago

      I think as the libs get deeper into arguments they say something that leads to a ban or removed comments. They are so far not brave enough to venture onto the News Megathread, praise be unto Lord SeventytwoTrillion.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    11 months ago

    Open the gates!

    Close the gates!

    Open the gates a little!

  • Fylkir@lemmy.sdf.org
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    11 months ago

    Hello. I was pretty regular user of the original sub before it closed down. I avoided moving to Hexbear because I didn't like the interface.

  • Parsani [love/loves, comrade/them]
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    11 months ago

    189 comments to 110 upvotes

    A week ago: ah shit, another struggle session

    Today: looks like some libs are getting pigpoop spammed

  • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
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    11 months ago

    lemmy.ml probably won't defed so we'll get a slow drip of new libs from that more than likely, even if everyone else did

    • ZapataCadabra [he/him]
      hexagon
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      11 months ago

      It was a little of shock but to see so many comments telling me to vote for Biden and Dems coming from a nominally ML site.

      • mamotromico@lemmy.ml
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        11 months ago

        A good chunk of people have no idea, they just know that it is the instance managed by the main devs.

      • spectre [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        I believe they're nominally "leftist" administrated by an ML.

      • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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        11 months ago

        It's run by MLs but they have allowed libs in so as to not hurt the project as a whole.

        They've said they're more comfortable as devs than as admins of such a large site

      • NoGodsNoMasters [they/them, she/her]
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        11 months ago

        Well they apparently haven't defedded with Nazis, so that kinda indicates maybe they're into freeze-peach and wouldn't defed. On the other hand you know how libs can be (.world was more eager to defed us than they were with Nazis before)

        • sovietknuckles [they/them]
          ·
          11 months ago

          .world was more eager to defed us than they were with Nazis before

          and Nazis after

      • Twink@lemm.ee
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        11 months ago

        Fuck I hope not, I chose it for the uptime and amount of federated instances. I left .ml and lemmygrad because they were down too often for me. :(

  • KillSlaveOwners [they/them]
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    11 months ago

    The good news is that the mods of Lemmy.ml are based and so many people post there given that it is the flagship instance. I don't think they'd ever defederate. We can continue dunking on western propoganda in worldnews@lemmy.ml

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    I think it's good that we have new people coming in who question and challenge our collective political opinions. It's good to explain and defend concepts because it really does aid in understanding. Plus, we don't want to become an echo chamber.

    • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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      11 months ago

      Tbh I see it kind of opposite. When people come in with uninformed bad arguments we've heard 1000 times before, it doesn't cause me to reevaluate anything, and it just makes me want to unite more with other Hexbears in dunking on them. When there's fewer of those types, it's easier to have meaningful discussions and disagreement, without having to worry about giving libs ammo. We haven't had any struggle sessions and I've seen a lot less debate between Hexbears since it started. But I also don't think that's a bad thing, we could stand to do a little less infighting.

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
        ·
        11 months ago

        You might be right and I might come to agree with you in time. For now though, I think it's okay.

        • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
          ·
          11 months ago

          You might be right and I might come to agree with you in time.

          See, this is exactly the kind of behavior I'm talking about! data-laughing

          And almost immediately, I have a perfect demonstration of how useless libs are at debate.

          • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
            ·
            11 months ago

            If one day I ever feel the urge to actually debate someone on the internet, I will log off forever and live the life of a hermit in the woods.

      • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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        11 months ago

        My thing is that I basically use Hexbear as a news aggregator, I don't really find much value in re-articulating my views, other than as a writing exercise, it's mostly a compulsive habit at this point. So I can take or leave federation, it doesn't really change that much, other than I won't lurk as much and will post more, which might not be a good thing.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        11 months ago

        Yeah. Honestly I'm not even having fun tearing in to them because it's just the same tired bullshit. Some dork was just yelling Tianemen square Uighurs DAE famine and it's like Is this shit the best you've got? They don't know anything, they don't know they don't know anything. It's not even a fight. They don't have any thoughts or ideas, all they do is parrot propaganda they're too incurious to question.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          But did you consider... there are good one billionaires and that EVs were popularized by their cults of personality? How many millions have you personally put into a privatized charity that routes back into your own pocket? very-intelligent

    • GaveUp [she/her]
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      11 months ago

      I agree, I feel like listening to what the liberals and fascists have to say is pretty important too to see both sides since the truth is always in the middle

    • doesntmatter [none/use name]
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      11 months ago

      i'll say it this is only true when you're not as based and theorised as da Empire State Building and can imagine libs and people who think they're not a lib but totally are know any worthwhile political theory

  • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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    11 months ago

    People here were worried about federation but I think given that we aren't on the old subreddit anymore a lot of the problems that used to exist are moot. Back on Reddit you used to have to worry that posting in cth would result in you being targeted in almost any other subreddit regardless of the content you were posting. Then there was the issue with potentially being shadowbanned or banned outright as well.

    They can just defederate here if they want. Otherwise I feel fairly free to interact with libs or chuds as much as I want, with the one caveat that the real bad actors have to be moderated, causing more work for the mod teams.

    Overall it seems fine. It's nice seeing people from other instances being able to come in and talk, for the most part. Seems much more alive now (which is great for me since I love mostly lurking)

    • g_g [they/them]
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      11 months ago

      I agree completely. I'm still sorting by local because I don't really feel like i vibe with what I see what sorting by all (not in a bad way per se, just doesn't really tickle my fancy like real og-hex-bear posts) but i've seen some good comments in our threads from folks on lemmygrad in particular so all in all I've been satisfied

      • spectre [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        It's sometimes fun to check in with the rest of lemmy if I catch up on all the content here

      • silent_water [she/her]
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        11 months ago

        a lot of the more interesting threads in all are also mostly hexbears posting lol

    • CloutAtlas [he/him]
      ·
      11 months ago

      Coming out of the hyperbolic time chamber to find your opponent is season 1 Krillin

  • VILenin [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    All the dumbass liberals were dammed for three years and now they’re flooding in with the fury of a thousand suns

  • Zodiark [he/him]
    ·
    11 months ago

    It's been stale here on Hexbear for a year, to be honest. I think it's because any catharsis or insight we can muster has been already tapped out or known by the users of this site, especially after its 2020/21' growing pains.

    I'm amused as you are by the wandering federali.

    • AOCapitulator [they/them]
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      11 months ago

      Yeah if I’m honest I’m thankful that we have This shakeup. was getting tired of most of the content each day being power poster memes

    • Riffraffintheroom [none/use name]
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      11 months ago

      I feel like there was a stale patch for a while but there's since been a readjustment with content being a little less laser-focused on politics and overall a little more positive.