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  • ashinadash [she/her]
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    4 months ago

    obviously very few cis women put effort into appearing female

    thonk Right, so when cis women shave their faces, shave their bodies, put on makeup, have their hair done in flattering ways, wear clothes that flatter their figure... they aren't putting effort into appearing female? That's not what that is? So the only differences are a few mannerisms [citation needed] and bodies, both of which trans women can easily affect too? That's what HRT is for. Fwiw I haven't made any mannerism changes really. Trans women can also still be gendered correctly whilst not putting in a ton of effort. There is no difference there. We all pass as female the same way. (By bowing to cisnormativity and unrealistic beauty standards)

    You dodged the question, though - I'm interested in what you see as the essential woman-ness of her sisters that she lacks. interviewer

    • Tomboymoder [she/her, pup/pup's]
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      4 months ago

      The difference is if my sisters don’t put effort into their hair, don’t do make up, throw on a pair of baggy clothes and don’t shave the little amount of facial hair on their lip they have enough of the other traits we deem “female” that no one is gonna think they are a dude.

      I don’t understand why this is controversial? I’m not an idiot, I know intersex people exist, I understand some woman have some traits more associated with the other gender.
      None of that changes what I said.

      • ashinadash [she/her]
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        4 months ago

        Right, so like... you have more facial hair than them? That's the innate difference? makima-huh Like what else would make people think you are a dude but not your sisters?

          • ashinadash [she/her]
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            4 months ago

            Well, you can change your voice... but wait, your body? So this is truly you blasting your dysphoria at people aggressively?

            You gotta realise that there are cis women with faces or bodies much like yours though, surely.

            • Tomboymoder [she/her, pup/pup's]
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              4 months ago

              I don’t know if we can have a conversation if you can’t admit that the vast majority of cis women have a majority of traits people associate with females. They don’t have to have literally all of them, but they all do (for the most part) have enough that they aren’t gonna look like men if they slack on a beauty regiment.

              • ashinadash [she/her]
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                4 months ago

                Uh, sure I can. Less facial hair, generally wider hips, longer hair, shorter arms? These are associated as "female" whether or not they actually are.

                What's the thresshold of "enough female traits"?

                • Tomboymoder [she/her, pup/pup's]
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                  4 months ago

                  I’m not gonna scientifically quantify it and play your stupid game where because I can’t down to the exact percentage I am wrong.

                  We both know what I am talking about we both know what I mean. For trans woman the balance of traits is different and often leaning in the other direction so every little thing you can do to alter that matters in a way it just doesn’t to cis woman.

                  • ashinadash [she/her]
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                    4 months ago

                    I’m not gonna scientifically quantify it and play your stupid game where because I can’t down to the exact percentage I am wrong.

                    Right, so do you see where people draw the phrenology comparison? Your own rules for the game, here. You specified.

                    For trans woman the balance of traits is different and often leaning in the other direction

                    Um this is far from being a universal truth. Like on average, sure, maybe amab people are gonna have more masc traits since they've been on testosterone... but that is what estrogen is for. It's pretty good ag feminising.

                    I know "what you mean and are talking about" insofar as that you are dysphoric and not getting gendered correctly, but not so much "this is cope" "you are delusional" "a woman looks like a woman no matter what". You have been saying some incorrect and shitty stuff, at other people, where this could have been a spoilered vent instead or something.