At least religious people have an excuse because their belief comes from a place of suffering, no one who thinks these sci-fi fantasy concepts are real is suffering, these beliefs come from a place of extreme comfort, nobody who believes in aliens is from the global south, how many times do liars need to stand in front of governments and say “aliens are real” for there to be some kind of explicit denouncement from atheists for these absolutely non-atheistic beliefs that get a pass because they are sci-fi. PURGE THE NERDS!
Aliens are almost definitely real. There are so many planets out there that there’s no way life only happened once.
But aliens almost definitely haven’t been to Earth. Space is incredibly big and it’s basically physically impossible to traverse between stars in a reasonable timeframe. We have no actual proof of their existence, just probability pointing towards yes.
Hey I get it, but it’s plain unscientific to say “almost definitely” and “there’s no way” in the same breath.
Aliens existing is different than Aliens having visited Earth. There are sooooo many planets, is it unthinkable to imagine life developing on more than one planet?
I think it's more of a semantic issue. "No way" implies certainty which we can't have in this situation, just like you can't say for certain that aliens are 100% real, just very likely real in some fashion
Yeah but that’s not how probability works. I’m sure whatever model of the universe you’re using approaches certainty for aliens. It is indeed a big, big universe out there. But that doesn’t make it so. However unlikely it is entirely possible earth is the only life harboring planet in the entire universe. We have one observable example of life in the whole cosmos.
If we're going to be pedantic with terminology, the gap between "almost definitely" and the negation is impossible is actually quite small. In probability theory "almost definitely" and "almost surely" refer to events with probability 1, and while their negations are not (necessarily) impossible, they represent sets of measure 0.
Anyway, the language you repelied to is very slightly sloppy, there's nothing "unscientific" or "scientific" about it.
Cool. If your model is almost certain that alien life exists, then who am I to question it? I’m just some dude with a different model.
I've said nothing about models or aliens, just pointing out some facts about probability theory, since we're being extremely pedantic with language apparently. Idk why it matters that someone equated A occurs almost definitely with not(A) = nullset, but it doesn't matter that the counter in this thread is "we can determine blueshifted signals from 13 billion light years perfectly" lol
Stop with the semantics
Oh ok. Aliens real then.
Back down I'll take you on. Headstrong I'll win the argument with anyone
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Sure. Didn’t think I sounded pedantic, but ok. I’m gonna pease out of this discussion.
Alien aren't real. It's a coping mechanism for atheists to think the universe isn't hostile to them or life itself.
Joe Biden has found no evidence of election fraud in our solar system, there are conditions in America that are less harsh than places where Biden exists on Twitter that definitely could support the khive if they got there. We have found no signals or Biden spheres or anything to suggest that there is life within the visible the White House. All the theories like the Biden paradox, great cornpop, dark brandon hypothesis. Where is the evidence to suggest any of them are correct? From the liberal perspective biden is the only life out there, and third party is barbaric.
No electronic transmissions and no [thing sci-fi authors made up] is not a good argument against space amoebas existing somewhere
How good do you think our detectors are? Lol.
Joe Biden might eventually put enough satellites around the sun that it would be noticeable from Delaware
It may be noticeable, it wouldn't be noticeable to a civilization of our current level of development. Even stuff as basic as "is a planet at a nearby system terrestrial or rocky" is challenging, the idea we're able to reliably say that systems even in our local group don't possess a certain structure, or dismiss coherent signals for the entire visible universe is laughable.
We understand how life came to be on Earth, and that the mechanics of such are mundane enough to reasonably occur elsewhere in the universe, and that's only with the form of life we're familiar with and ruling out any other possible forms of life that might use entirely different chemical processes than we do.
In a functionally infinite universe, the odds that those same circumstances repeat somewhere is guaranteed. Whether that life is intelligent or not is anyone's guess, but it exists.
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hell, the cosmos might very well be infinite in size. if that is the case (big if), then somewhere very far away the initial conditions and chaotic dynamics of gravity repeated and a planet practically identical to earth has formed and beings indistinguishable from humans evolved. because it's infinite, this'd be repeated infinite times, but they'd be all unfathomably far apart from each other, on average.
They'd all be well beyond the range of the observable universe, impossible to reach due to expansion of space, and not "real" in any practical sense.
In this way, there very well may be "parallel" universes. There's also the quantum "many worlds" version of parallel universes but I think that one's been touched on enough by pop culture, I don't feel like explaining it.
💯plus a lot of the uncertainty around it is humans thinking they’re extremely special