I've heard a few people sing their praises, and a few say that they're not worth it. Some cost $80, some are $400, but I don't really know what makes one better than the other, or either of them better than a $20 glass pipe.
Sometimes if I'm smoking every day I'll develop a cough, so I'm guessing that it's not that great for my lungs. Would a vaporizer be better?
Infinitely healthier. You're taking in water vapor rather than burnt carbon
Also it saves you a ton of money long term because it's so much more efficient
1 gram of joints last me 3-7 sessions
1 gram of bud with my Crafty+ vaporizer lasts me no joke probably around 100 sessions. It could be dozens less or dozens more but it's so many I can't even get a good estimate in
You can also save the spent herb and make edibles with it. Vaping effectively decarbs it and it’s something like 90% as strong as fresh herb that’s been purposely decarbed.
It’s really no contest when it comes to efficiency and the vaporizer can pay for itself pretty quickly if you use it enough.
https://www.planetofthevapes.com/products/xmax-v3-pro-vaporizer-1
works fine out of the box with any ground bud, easy to clean. they have a capsule thing to avoid any buildup of dust in the lower chamber that costs $5 and I use it just in case because there's no way to replace it. but yeah I got this thing for $60 and it rules. seems like most of the vapor trail is ceramic and the screen but there is silicone on the top of the heating chamber which also collects residue at the bottom of the ceramic which condenses the vapor, and ceramic can mean substances which have polymers in them these days, legally, just FYI if you're paranoid. so I make sure to let it cool down in between the 4:00 heating cycles. only heating to 180-200° C though.
your lungs are definitely fucked up sorry to be rude. the more expensive ones have better controls, attachments, heating time and vapor production, I think the best ones would be around $120 price range. wouldn't shell out too much. ideally you'd want a completely glass vapor trail and heating element I think
it's just way more efficient and less harsh on your lungs. plus it looks a lot cooler than a joint or whatever let's be real
re: polymers
Storz and Bickel makes a few vaporizers that have gotten medical device certifications for medical marijuana users so it should be safe long term
Very pricey choice but even the certification aside, a lot of people have said they're worth it. I def don't regret my Crafty+ purchase
looks good, those have a nice design to them as well, I like the brickier ones. when this thing breaks down I will probably get one of those. and it will, I can tell, even if I continue keeping it in a bag to hide the air grate, etcetera
I point out $60 because that is how much people here will pay for a plastic cartridge of ethanol and terpene slop with natural flavoring. you can get an ounce of b buds or a whole dry herb vape for that.
I don't partake much nowadays but when I did, I used this one and quite enjoyed it. Also took the grate out and used capsules.
https://www.planetofthevapes.com/products/potv-one-vaporizer
they have a capsule thing to avoid any buildup of dust in the lower chamber that costs $5 and I use it just in case because there's no way to replace it.
Do you mean this thing? https://www.planetofthevapes.com/products/dosing-capsules-set-for-xmax-v3-pro-vaporizer
yeah. the grate underneath is a little annoying to cover completely with a screen so just putting the stuff in a container keeps it cleaner long term
Yes, for daily use vaporizing will be much better for you long term. Check out my comment to AOCapitulator
Friend of mine has one of these volcano tabletop vapes and that with a good, light hash is hands-down my favorite way to get stoned. I mean, other ways work fine as well, i'm not a snob about these things, but the taste is sooo good. A hit from these things actually tastes like the stuff smells, because you're not burning up any of the terpenes or smth. To a slightly smaller degree, that also goes for handheld dry herb vapes, but i've heard complaints that you have to replace them once in a while because either the ceramic chamber or the battery doesn't last as long as the rest of the vape and they aren't built in a way that you can just replace these parts (yay capitalism). They do their job, tho, they get you high, taste good and are better for your lungs and especially your throat than smoking.
I think the volcano ones are close to $400, or at least more than I'd like to spend. And I'd rather smoke flower because I can grow it myself.
Arizer Extreme Q and V-Tower are cheaper desktop vapes that work just as well.
I'd rather have something that would fit in my pocket, but I'll keep those in mind
Dynavap is the vaporizer that is closest to a bong rip, but requires a bit of practice to use to its full effectiveness.
You have to heat it up with a torch, basically like a fancy crack pipe?
they sell a fancy little induction heater for them. my friend used to have one it actually gets you blasted, insanely efficient way of using green.
Yup. With the standard version you spin it so that it heats up evenly, but the M Plus, armored cap, and FMJ options are designed so you can just point the torch at a designated spot to get it hot enough.
I highly recommend the magnetic dugouts as they give you a spot to store it as the tip cools down and an easy way to remove a warm tip.
If you are using a standard bic/clipper lighter, then you want to bury the tip in the flame as you spin it.
Yeah a vaporizer would probably be better if you have a smoker's cough.
If you're worried about ceramics (thankfully not me) I can recommend the Magic Flight Launch Box, nice little dry herb vape that only needs an AA battery or power adapter. I think it is like $60-80?
I've also used the HR Fury nice little device with a built in battery - but definitely uses some sort of silicone for the screen gasket.
Currently suffering my like 2nd year of using this XLUX Roffu, the most expensive out of the three mentioned so far, but it came with a glass and metal chamber. I hate the pull on it though & out of all of them, the roffu collects the most concentrate in its chamber which is a pain to clean. Definitely hits the hardest besides like maybe the MFLB though
the Magic Flight Launch Box, nice little dry herb vape that only needs an AA battery or power adapter. I think it is like $60-80?
Looks like they're $144 for the cheapest one. Do you know if the cover is glass or plastic?
damn i don't remember paying that much for it when I got it back in like 2014. The cover is plastic but not a flimsy sort.That's Bidenomics for you. I did see a few used ones on eBay for cheap, but I don't know how I feel about inhaling hot plastic fumes.
Hahaha for what it's worth, the plastic shouldn't ever get hot and keeping the cover on in use isn't required unless you're trying to minimize smell.
Something like the Dynavap might be more up your alley though; entirely stainless steel and requires a torch, although I've only ever used one once so cannot speak on the durability/etc.
The Arizer Solo uses a glass pod/air path. Is a bit expensive though. https://arizer.com/solo2/
The Arizer Solo uses a glass pod/air path. Is a bit expensive though
That's on the upper end of what I'd want to spend, but I'll look into it. Looking at their website, they have a bunch of different models that appear very similar to my untrained eye. Do you know what makes the $137 Solo II different from the $310 Solo III? Or the $106 Air SE?
I smoke weed every day and tried dry herb vapes, thought it was Nasty idk if I was doin it wrong but by god did it taste bad
I felt similarly but then got one of these and haven't looked back. No cough or issues despite pretty regular use compared with constant stuffyness when combusting herb
It's using a water pipe with electrically heated glass beads as the heat source rather than a flame. Just have to be careful not to touch yourself with the hot metal
https://vgoodiez.com/collections/the-heavies/products/b-zero-bundle-by-cannabis-hardware
there's a lot of shitty vaporizers out there and the packing def requires more care than a joint or bong
Either they don't clean well or more likely the weed is nasty
Brand new device, and weed that was just fine when smoked in a bowl or joint idk
if it was brand new that might have been lubricant oils from it being machined. that would taste really vile. in that case you're just supposed to cycle it without anything to get rid of that. I did not have anything like that but I also preemptively cycled it. either that or you despise the toasty flavor
I believe it's the latter, I did give it a good ol try and cleaned it out and refilled it a couple times
it really depends on what you throw in there. some odors taste good when smoked but not when vaped. i get really lemony light green. gets two very productive sessions out of a bowl at 180° C before it starts to get toasty in a bad way (I roll that stuff into condensed milk and cocoa balls). i just hate cat piss and this other weird flavor i would describe as hardware store
oh also neem oil! i completely forgot neem oil and capsaicin spray. depending on how organic you go, that is a hazard. lmao
😶 I forgot about the lubricant oils thing until you said that lol
I got a little arizer one like 10 years ago, you can replace the battery, it makes weed last for ever, it doesmt stink out your room, 110% recommend them
they helped me stop smoking tobacco
i used to have a pax and it was ok, a little tough to get good hits off. there's a few people in this thread claiming it's straight up better for you... i understand why people think that, and it may be true but it's my impression it's not exactly an empirically backed claim just yet because vaping is so new. it seems fair to assume vaping dry herb at low temps would be less bad than smoking, but especially when it comes to like, gas station pods and shit, who the fuck knows what the long term effects of that are? nobody, i think. i know that's tangential to your post. personally vaping weed in any form has always felt harsher on my lungs than a joint. i prefer joints for other reasons too though.
I've tried those vape pens that use a cartridge of hash oil and they irritated my lungs more than smoking a pipe
yeah those are killer on the lungs. i've smoked for years and never felt like my lungs were so harshly rejecting something as with those. can't possibly be any better for you than a joint.
