1. Trump’s head is fully exposed to hundreds of people with elevation advantage (lol at that one agent shielding Trump’s fat head with his hand)
  2. Secret service detail is entirely focused on moving the large son, they seem to have complete tunnel vision. Someone could’ve jumped out the stand and get a few stabs in even if they were immediately shot
  3. The only SWAT guy is also point man and he seems to be doing cursory checks in his path (like there’s no way he can spot a threat in the crowds on each side of him).
  4. The camera pans to the exit, and there’s still like 50 attendees around the area, a couple of local cops without weapons drawn just standing around like they’re waiting for a burger, and Trump’s detail is all focused on pushing his ass into the limo without really monitoring the surroundings

I know they have snipers at the event, but how many? Surely not enough to monitor the entire crowd of thousands while a dozen or so people are entirely focused on a narrow path. I know bodyguards’ are primarily task with moving the VIP to safety, but why is no one telling anyone to move back or have more people guarding the path? In this video and others, you can see random photographers running right up to the security’s pathway to snap photos. Surely this is a potential threat during an assassination attempt

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    4 months ago

    Idk if the ss is competent or not these days, but there's vastly more to what they do than when they're standing around the president on the day of. Lots of intel and counter-intel work. People don't try to shoot the potus that often, and the ones who do tend to rant about it a lot.

    • RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 months ago

      The nature of things have changed too, the kid did aerial recon with his own personal drone before going to the event. He had improvised explosives. He could have done a lot of things with enough ingenuity.

      • someone [comrade/them, they/them]
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        4 months ago

        Just wait until someone tries an assassination directly via explosive-armed commercial drone. I think it's only a matter of "when", not "if".

    • EmoThugInMyPhase [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 months ago

      Well that’s true. I imagine their recon and support teams are hard at work, except the snipers who watched Crooks for like 20 minutes, but the protection job seems very sloppy. Like not even a kevlar blanket lol. Just using your hand.

        • EmoThugInMyPhase [he/him]
          hexagon
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          4 months ago

          He says “wait let me grab my shoes” and someone says “ok sir” and one of the agents grabbed his fallen hat for him lmao. Wouldn’t it be more effective to force him into a box and carry it to the limo

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        4 months ago

        Yeah I was surprised they didn't have any bulletproof shields or blankets. That was weird. Those tools exist now, where were they?

  • da_gay_pussy_eatah [she/her]
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    4 months ago

    I'd been thinking about this for a while before this even happened, and this just confirmed it. I don't think the secret service is necessarily that effective, it's just that nobody is even attempting in the first place. It would be one thing if lower politicians (senators, governors, etc) were getting shot up frequently but the president was uniquely safe, but that really isn't the case. Here we saw an actual assassination attempt on a former president, and the only thing that saved his life was the fact that the shooter happened to have the worst aim in all of rural America.

    • Mokey [none/use name]
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      4 months ago

      Just bc rednecks like guns doesnt mean theyre good at using them, theres a lot of wreckless idiots who think hitting bird shot on a target 10meters away makes them a badass

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        4 months ago

        I love that Americans, collectively, regardless of our politics, are very mad at that kid for having bad aim.

        I want to make some meme about Oswald being a commie and fucking nailing Kennedy while the Cross kid can't hit fucking Trump but I can't bring it together in my head.

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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          4 months ago

          I want to make some meme about Oswald being a commie

          I like making it a marine joke to jab at the jarheads and their superiority complex of "being better riflemen than the army"

  • D61 [any]
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    4 months ago

    Nothing really elite about them, no.

    They've got a fuckton of resources and authority though. Mostly their job is investigating people making threatening remarks and prepping locations wherever the president is going to be for their visit.

    But once there's a crowd, its kinda up to the President to follow whatever the plan is after something goes down.

    Also, former presidents get a small Secret Service detail but probably not the same level of resources as the actual sitting president. So there's gotta a more of a "security theater" thing going on.

    • egg1918 [she/her]
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      4 months ago

      So there's gotta a more of a "security theater" thing going on.

      Ah so it's the TSA of the police then

      • D61 [any]
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        4 months ago

        Once the crowds are in front of the President/former President, kinda.

  • Vampire [any]
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    4 months ago

    lol at that one agent shielding Trump’s fat head with his hand

    Couldn't they have shields? If their job is to stop bullets, I'd think they could carry modern shields.

    idk, I'm not Valerie Irons, just makes sense to me

    • loathsome dongeater@lemmygrad.ml
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      4 months ago

      When the nationalist Japanese ex-PM got got recently his bodyguards had bulletproof briefcases. Maybe these guys could have something like that too.

    • EmoThugInMyPhase [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 months ago

      They apparently do not lol. Trump keeps sticking his neck out of the SS stack and they just let him

      • Vampire [any]
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        4 months ago

        'ballistic shield' apparently is the word

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      4 months ago

      They should have had shields. Various bulletproof and bomb resistant blankets and shields exist and could have been staged ready for use, but they were not.

  • Hestia [comrade/them, she/her]
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    4 months ago

    If there's one thing to be learned through all this, it's that it's remarkably easy to assassinate a politician.

  • EmoThugInMyPhase [he/him]
    hexagon
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    4 months ago

    One of the SS ladies pick up Trunp’s hat and held on to it during the entire escort lmao

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  • EmoThugInMyPhase [he/him]
    hexagon
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    4 months ago

    Wide angle of the car. Everyone seems to assume that there’s no threat inside the crowd

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      • Mokey [none/use name]
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        4 months ago

        Well, its just that there are people who probably are better and more competent in the secret service and unless you have lots of real world application I imagine theres only so good you can be at that kind of job.

        Just because you are in the army doesnt mean your stone cold tactical killer badass, on the contrary actually.

        That being said, there are probably much more competent and more frightening people in the secret service and this redneck, maga country shithole probably got a bunch of news guys for what would have normally been a low stakes situation.

        Also the speculation lends itself to conspiracy when I just don't see it.