• abdul [none/use name]
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    People are being tortured and mutilated in concentration camps in China right now but yeah, whatever you need to tell yourself.

    • asaharyev [he/him]
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      Do you have literally any evidence for this that does not come from Adrian Zenz?

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        Let’s address Zenz first since you naively seem to believe him to be the only example. What exactly about his claim (not he himself, but the claims he made using data provided directly by the ccp itself) do you find so hard to believe that you would dismiss any accusation of genocide at all as being a psy-op.

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          Fill your boots: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d0lynghlCnR6Hs57pypEEhlhHczFVgaYX-TIZD61s_w/edit?ouid=104343924564237344347&usp=docs_home&ths=true

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            How about you directly answer my question instead of hiding behind a nonsequitor link like a bitch

            • GottaJiBooUrns [they/them]
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              You asked about Zenz and were given a document that in part discusses Zenz. I don't think that counts as a nonsequitor.

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                I didn’t ask for a document related to Zenz. I asked that specific person what specific things about what Zenz claimed using data provided directly by China itself do they feel disqualifies any discussion at all about the uyghur genocide.

                The reality is that 99-100% of the people here claiming the genocide is fake news are just parroting what other people here have said, because that’s what they care about. They’d rather fit in with the community than actually look into whether or not people are being tortured, sterilized, raped, whatever.

            • Awoo [she/her]
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              How about you show us your dick?

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                      Funny how only libs say CCP and only communists say CPC. :thinkin-lenin:

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                        Shit like this is why I don’t trust white leftists. It’s literally just a personality trait for you. You don’t give a shit about making anyone’s life better or fighting injustice, just distancing yourself from your countries past. Get fucked.

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                          1. Don't you fucking dare assume you know what my ethnicity is.

                          2. Every single actually existing socialist nation supports China.

                          3. Every single Muslim country supports China's handling of the situation. You want to claim that this is about white fucking people when literally ALL fucking Muslim countries oppose you. Who the fuck is the person not listening here? Who is the person shouting down the actual Muslims? Not fucking me.

                          4. If you want to continue this conversation with me any further you need to show us your dick. That's the lib tax I'm afraid.

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                            guys it’s ok, MBS and all the poor Muslim governments beholden to capital say China can do what they want

                            Dumbass

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                              Nah that's bullshit. Countries that don't want to upset anyone just abstain from making a statement. These countries took more of a hit to their diplomatic relationships in the world by coming out in support instead of being cucked by western imperialist attempt to disrupt the Xinjiang region because of its strategic importance to the Belt and Road trade initiative.

                              Here, listen to it straight from Former Chief of Staff to the Secretary of State in an incredibly honest mask-off moment before any of this bullshit even started.

                              Attempting to cause unrest and disrupt Xinjiang was of extremely strategic value to the US because Xinjiang is a key bottleneck in the Belt and Road initiative.

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                                No thats bullshit.

                                Unlike you, I’ve actually lived in muslim countries and understand the leadership don’t give a shit about anyone but themselves. You can justify it in whatever ideologically convenient way you want, I’m speaking from personal experience here so you’re not likely to brainwash me with the same stupid shit you ate up elsewhere.

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                                  No it's not. How can you fucking listen to members of the state department literally involved in the longterm strategic planning of this shit and then completely and totally dismiss it as bullshit?

                                  You literally just heard it from the horse's mouth.

                                  You're poking your fingers in your ears and screaming "lalalalalala". It's fucking embarrassing behaviour. You've literally closed your eyes and ears to anything except what you're fed by US policy institutes and their media tendrils.

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                                  When you're asked to present evidence for your claims you completely ignore it and then when you are presented with evidence to the contrary you completely ignore that, too. All of that I can tolerate. But I do believe you have been told to post hog. Ignoring that will not stand.

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                                    I did present evidence. It was met with bad faith responses. Believe what you want.

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                                Lol nothing about this is an ad hominem. She said muslim leadership is credible because of who they are and I explained to her that they have class allegiances outside their religious credentials. If you just want to ban me because you don’t like me, go ahead. But don’t pretend it’s because I’m arguing in “bad faith” when I’m the only person here with an ounce of sympathy for what the CCP is putting the Uyghurs through.

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                                    It’s straight, I’ll get tired of posting here eventually anyway. Sorry for the headache you probably had to deal with from reports. I try to space my ccp posting out so you aren’t inundated with it, but the realities are too dark for me to not talk about it at all.

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                          Shit like this is why I don’t trust white leftists

                          swallows white propaganda designed to provoke a war with the most powerful non-white country on the planet

                          yes sweaty it's just a coincidence that all the white countries and their vassal states hate China

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            Cmon this should be a softball! It’s Adrian Zenz! Everyone here hates him so much they don’t care if China is killing thousands of people! If you can’t even address that, what’s the point of taking you seriously?

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              lmao, literally shut the fuck up, you smooth brained lib

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                Being not a lib means supporting a hyper capitalist terror state role playing as a communist govt that has the total backing of corporate America. The more corporations I make happy, the less of a lib I am _

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                  Being not a lib means uncritically just believing a white, German born again Christian who speaks nor reads Mandarin and believes God sent him to punish Beijing when he says that China is torturing and killing millions of Muslims.

                  total backing of corporate America

                  lol, ok buddy

                  📬 🐖

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                    Zenz is a nutjob. No argument from me there. Having said that, if the only thing you have to say in response to the claims he made is about his character and not about the data he used that came directly from the ccp itself, you’re a sucker and not worth anyone taking seriously, ever. You’re welcome to keep larping like an imbecile, but don’t expect anything useful to happen.

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        Why should i whitewash the truth to make sensitive white commie larpers feel better about supporting a hyper capitalist terror state that has the support of every corporation in America

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      People are being tortured and mutilated in concentration camps

      FUCK CHINA for creating guantanamo bay