• marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    There's something extremely funny about the president of the US looking at what's going on China and saying out loud, "Their economy is a ticking time bomb." This is almost an onion news story.

    • immuredanchorite [he/him, any]
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      1 year ago

      dem

      Listen, Fat! The US economy is doing better than any economy has every done in history, Jack. I call it Bidenomics. Get with the program.

      biden-nibble biden-rember biden-point DaBiden

    • CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      Omfg you people really spam every China related thread on our site huh? Forcing us to endure seeing your annoying asses at every corner, is there no way to block every hexbear user?

      • Flinch [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        wojak-nooo why won't you damn tankies let us lie about China??? STOP IT!! MODS!!!

      • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        what do you mean, "you people"?

        and that annoyance you feel is nothing compared to the capitalist propaganda you've been swimming in your whole life.

        glasses-on

            • CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml
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              1 year ago

              How is it homophobia? I would've said the same thing for anyone of any pronoun tags. What makes you so sure I might not be LGBT?

              • ZapataCadabra [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                Telling someone they suck a man's dick as an insult is pretty basic homophobia. Unless you meant it as a compliment, then by all means I hope xigma-male gets his knob schlobbed for all his hard work.

              • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                1 year ago

                yeah because there aren't any homophobic queer people. that'd never happen.

          • StalinForTime [comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            Your tone is that of a teenager and I suspect you do not know how to define state capitalist, or alternatively you don't know as much as you think about the Chinese economy.

          • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]
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            1 year ago

            you've made it extremely clear that you don't read, but I'm going to leave a link here for fun anyway

            https://redsails.org/losurdo-on-china/

          • emizeko [they/them]
            ·
            1 year ago

            you say that, but have you considered that pee pee poo poo?

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            1 year ago

            What is it with the homophobia and misogyny? Do you understand that using deepthroating is accusing someone of being the receptive participant in the sex act, and that cultural norms expect that person to either be a woman or a gay man? Do you understand that you're trying to insult someone by accusing them of being a woman or a gay man engaged in a sexual act that you apparently find to be demeaning or shameful? I mean, like, okay, Catholic, so hating queer people and women should be assumed, but are you actually aware you're doing it or is it just a reflex?

          • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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            1 year ago

            the state is more answerable to the people than a non-state capitalist is.

            It wouldn't be my first choice but it would be an improvement.

          • temptest [any]
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            1 year ago

            What makes it spam? We're invited to lemmy.ml, it shows up on our homepage the same as it does yours (probably even higher because instances more likely to downvote or ignore political posts don't link with us atm).

            If you meant flooding, it's not that either. We're a big instance (1k users weekly) with a general interest in politics and a historical anti-lurking culture, so we'll be disproportionately active in political threads compared to a general instance like lemmy.ml, just like programming.dev is in tech threads. Are we meant to just not share an opinion because too many other people in the same instance already posted their (different) opinion?

            • HornyOnMain
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              1 year ago

              Ngl the anti lurking culture of hexbear has been so good for us being able to fucking bully libs coming in despite there maybe being a "silent majority" of ex-reddit libs who probably outnumber us but never post

              • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                1 year ago

                Back on Reddit we were like the third most active sub in sheer posting velocity after I think the NBA sub with 2.3 million members. They couldn't keep us off the front page without fucking with the algo. It's one of the main reasons they quarantined us.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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            1 year ago

            You can just make your own instance where only people with brains as smooth as bowling balls are allowed and defederate with the rest of us. I guarantee you that everyone will be much happier.

      • MattsAlt [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Time for you to go make friends with the fascists and shitlibs who share your opinions I guess

          • MattsAlt [comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            You're such a redditor

            It's also kinda hard to have 99% of people dislike China if 18% of the global population lives there and is very satisfied with their government, not even counting anyone in Russia, other parts of Asia and the Pacific, Central and South America, or Africa.

            You're really showing whose opinions you actually care about. A bunch of propagandized to the brim, comfortable Americans, Canadians, and Europeans

          • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            That's ridiculous since the Chinese like China and we're 18% of all humans.

            Here's an article about Americans getting salty that views on China in South America are largely positive as opposed to sub 50% approval rating in English speaking countries.

            Here's Voice of America saying the same thing about Africa and how Africans see China.

            Your opinions on China is not only in the minority, it's a waning minority. Those are western sources I used in case you wanted to cry propaganda.

            • BeamBrain [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              CatholicSocialist's criteria for who counts as people: us-foreign-policy

          • ZapataCadabra [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Go read about BRI infrastructure projects in Africa and Asia. The global south is generally very positive about Chinese politics because Chinese give them hospitals and roads and ports.

              • machiabelly [she/her]
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                1 year ago

                lmao this is so dumb. Every campaign promise in every democracy is a bribe then?

              • BeamBrain [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                Maybe the US should try bribing people instead of bombing them

                • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  In fairness the statement is consistent. The US government does it's damndest to do nothing what so ever for the citizens of the us.

              • NoGodsNoMasters [they/them, she/her]
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                1 year ago

                Maybe the US should start "bribing" with infrastructure projects then, I thought they were all about their soft power or whatever

                • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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                  1 year ago

                  You know the US is upstanding because it won't even bribe its own citizens by giving them anything that would improve their lives no matter how hard they vote. True democracy!

              • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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                1 year ago

                China helped other counties improve the material conditions of their people bribed the dumb dark folk.

              • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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                1 year ago

                The nefarious Chinese are tricking people into supporting them by checks notes improving their material conditions.

                Thank God I live in America where I'll never have to worry about the government doing that.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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            1 year ago

            In the real world 99% of people in US think about where their next meal is going to come from instead of perseverating about China the way you're doing kid.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            1 year ago

            I think you'd be shocked to find out that most of the world thinks very highly of China and it's accomplishments and foreign policy. Though you like meant only to refer to Americans, which is understandable given your lamentable biases.

      • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Excuse me, I'm here to show my support for Comrade Joe

        biden-leftist

        it just so happens to also be a China thread

        p.s.

        You can probably block entire instances using one of the 3pa

      • psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de
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        1 year ago

        Dude, take a break!

        I mean I completely disagree with you, but this thread can't be healthy for you. What purpose is it serving to get enraged here?

        I'd say take a breather and if you dare: ask yourself how reliable your impression of China really is, maybe research some older claims that have been proven to be misrepresented or false, like this for example. Not saying you have to become a fan, but there seems to be a propaganda effort to prepare the public for a economic/military war with China. So more people need to be sceptical.

        You seem to haven't accepted it yet, but the capitalist class, through the means of communication they control, construct most impressions you have of foreign countries (without them being able to interject) and facts are negligable as they have been in the news-medias support of every US war effort in history as well.

        I got a little carried away, but I meant it in good faith, you decided to wear a badge of socialism after all.

        What you do is obviously up to you!

      • Fuckass
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        1 year ago

        deleted by creator

      • m-p{3}@lemmy.ca
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        1 year ago

        At least on mobile apps you can block an entire instance, hopefully that's a feature we'll see on Lemmy itself one day.

      • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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        1 year ago

        Just keep dropping this link on the hexbears whenever you can:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre

        They're either clueless teenagers that only know the things they've learned from TikTok or working for whatever the Chinese equivalent of glavset is. Either way, they tend to make themselves scarce when that link is dropped on them.

        • JohnBrownsBussy2 [she/her, they/them]
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          1 year ago

          OOOH. A link to wikipedia. The forbidden knowledge!

          porky-scared porky-scared-flipped

          It's so scarey.

          But on the other hand, the tanks didn't even run over that guy (CW): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6F2AqzdXuI&pp=ygUhdXMgcG9saWNlIHJ1bm5pbmcgb3ZlciBwcm90ZXN0b3Jz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-W-7WPWfE4&t=18s https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L-pJTOzyEkI

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
            ·
            1 year ago

            Technically, Tank man ran over the Tank. Easy to see how people got that turned around.

        • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
          ·
          1 year ago

          Why would we make ourselves scarce when some one drops a link to the wikipedia article on Tiananmen Square?

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Imagine thinking the most Redditor-ass reply of linking to Wikipedia of all places on a topic they are already familiar with is useful. Do you believe the Reddit myth about wumaos being shot whenever they see the phrase "Tiananmen Square Massacre" is true?

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Oh no my kill-switch has been activated! Tell my family in the re-education camps I love them! /cyberpunk brain asplode noises

        • Zrc
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          4 months ago

          deleted by creator

        • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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          1 year ago

          Either way, they tend to make themselves scarce when that link is dropped on them.

          This is either a bit or a masochist lol, just straight up inviting the dogpile.

          • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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            1 year ago

            Yeah I get like 50 responses to my comments everyday... been reported as a bot multiple times. Given their tactics, my suspicion is the hexbear is a 50 cent army hive, but haven't confirmed this yet. Could be just kids that spent too much time on TikTok that don't know how terrible the PRC is. Or a mix of both. But likely just 50 cent army.

            But meh, if it's wasting more of their time than mine, we're winning.

            • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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              1 year ago

              But likely just 50 cent army.

              Sorry, but I'm actually not allowed to get paid for my China posts because of a noncompete clause I signed from when George Soros hired me as a crisis actor. I'm not allowed to be a paid actor in any other conspiracy theories right now, so I'm just defending China pro-bono to keep my posting skills sharp so I can try to get on as a wumao once my contract is up.

            • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Sir please keep the good name of Mr. Cent out of your Liberal mouth. .50 Cent got shot 9 times and recovered to be both a great rapper and the protagonist of a really bad X-box shooter. You accomplishments pale in comparison with his career.

              'Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.'

              I hope you're having as much fun as we are!

        • booty [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          this is one of the dumbest posts of all time. it should be in a museum

        • Mindfury [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          oh no, that link appears to have broken my internet!

          now my web browser can only take me to this page: https://newint.org/features/2021/12/07/feature-how-british-colonizers-caused-bengal-famine

          • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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            1 year ago

            Sure more past grievances from fascist hexbear. Yeah yeah the British were horrible colonizers. I can say that where I live.

            But how about we discuss how you feel about the Tiananmen Square massacre. But of course you can't because you're afraid of the repercussions of discussing it even today, don't you?

            • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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              1 year ago

              I feel sort of a warm, minty sensation. I really appreciate the students willingness to boldly confront the Deng government to voice their opposition to the imposition of liberal market economics, and I'm sympathetic to their position that social conservativism and a very restrictive public culture was not in line with communist practice. It also demonstrates the delicate balance of power between the party and the people.

            • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
              ·
              1 year ago

              Tiananmen Square? That was thirty years ago, why are you bringing up past greivances like a fascist? Kind of sus to me dude

              • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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                1 year ago

                The chilling effects of that massacre exist in China to this day. It's something that's blocked by their nationwide firewall and people refuse to discuss it out of fear of having some trouble with the authorities.

            • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              I do love how you keep playing to Tiananmen Square card like it's all 5 pieces of Exodia against Hexbears (supposedly) and it repeatedly has no effect.

              The times in your past where it's worked, it may have been with teenagers that support China to be edgy.

              We're educated who understand China's faults and side with China over US/UK/Can anyway. But you simply can't comprehend people that think China's positives outweight it's negatives without them being paid 50 cents a post.

        • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
          ·
          1 year ago

          Either way, they tend to make themselves scarce when that link is dropped on them.

          looks down-thread

          dont-laugh

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Why? We all know that about 300 people, mostly pla soldiers and insurgents, were killed in fighting blocks away from the square, while all the students in the square evacuated peacefully after the pla issued a final ultimatum.

  • gnuhaut@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Yeah yeah, I've heard that before. There's a whole cottage industry of "experts" that have predicted the imminent collapse of China going back decades. Call me when it actually happens.

    • ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
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      1 year ago

      China's economy is stacked like a house of cards and could come crumbling down due to some unforeseen global financial shock, but then again that sounds like most modern economies. I think people just pick on China because, instead of having a group of billionaires stack up the cards, the government does it themselves.

      • somename [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        Even if that shock happens, China will still be in a better situation. Like, they actually manufacture stuff there, and the government builds infrastructure aggressively. That’s two massive benefits to economic security and health.

        • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          But what if all that high speed rail disappears, huh? Didn't think about that, stupid tankie.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            1 year ago

            It's a legitimate risk. Rail theft by the mole-people is up 12% in the last quarter.

      • robot
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        1 year ago

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      • spectre [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        The Chinese government stacks the cards though it actually has the capability to use some toothpicks to hold them in place, and will immediately rebuild it things start to fall apart.

        To contrast, the US will flounder and pull their one "low interest rates" lever while having a political blowout over some sort of stimulus funding package that probably won't pass.

      • ThomasMuentzner [he/him, comrade/them]
        ·
        1 year ago

        Do you repeat something you heard there or can you in detail describe how the worlds greates manufacturing Hub is a economy build on Cards...

      • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        If that's the case then the US's economy is a card dealer pointing a gun at everyone at the table

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Well, actually it's because China's roaring economic success is both deeply embarassing and existentially dangerous to international fascism and it is absolutely vital that they both discredit China and prevent their thoroughly indoctrinated population from learning anything about China at all costs.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    If you think China's economy is a time bomb wait til you hear about what it means when the dollar is no longer the reserve currency around the world.

  • Grebgreb [he/him, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    The country that leads the world in mass shootings shouldn't be labeling other countries as "ticking time bombs."

  • Flinch [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Man leading country with the largest homeless population in the world says country which eliminated extreme poverty within its borders is about to collapse, of course this is true and should be taken seriously very-intelligent

  • btbt [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    biden-troll Don’t worry about having to work 30 hours a day at the sisyphean torture factory to be able to afford your ten square foot apartment Jack, look at what’s going on in China! A sexpat YouTuber who got kicked out of the country says their economy will collapse any minute now! Don’t trust any of the actual data on China’s economy, you can’t fall for those [REDACTED] and their tricks, Jack! They’re weak even though we say they’re strong! THEY’RE WEAK EVEN THOUGH WE SAY THEY’RE STRONG!

  • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Me upvoting a comment and when it refreshes, seeing it's been upvoted 8 times since I navigated to the page sicko-pog

  • Flaps [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Well ima call the US a ticking timebomb, how about that Jack biden-alert

  • Grownbravy [they/them]
    ·
    1 year ago

    What troubles?

    Can you describe the troubles?

    Are the troubles in the room with us?